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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 5]

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 22:52

Shut up and read some book nerds, it’s like 5 bucks.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 23:00

> Eventually on any extreme you'll find people more willing to take their chances and fight @Remnant That’s not the point. Exposing your capabilities makes you less lethal.

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

24 May 2020 23:01

True, being unexpected is important

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

24 May 2020 23:01

Although that is also saying water is wet

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

24 May 2020 23:09

Depending on the scenario, exposing your capabilities makes you a target. If you're out on recon, or grabbing milk at the store, you don't want to stand out. If you're making a show of force with 30 others, then throwing your second line gear on top and standing out will make you more effective.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 23:17

“The more you project about your intentions or capabilities, the more you present them with the ultimatum of taking you down decisively in ambush or facing loss themselves. What if your overt projections of strength deterred 10 low-level fights that you could have probably won, only to give the advantage to the one high-level attacker that takes you down for good?” - That book ^

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 23:21

Except it’s about shooting people directly in the back of the head

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 23:23

Yup. That’s what he’s trying to say. If you look tough, they won’t give you a chance to fight back. The police apply the same thought process

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

24 May 2020 23:24

A couple of people on fb are going "so look like an oFf DuTy CoP" so I'm making one specially for them

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

24 May 2020 23:24

because apparently only off duty cops wear polo shirts

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 23:25

Vertex polos are kinda on that line, depending on your AO. construction company hoodies or similar are what I like to rock.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

24 May 2020 23:25

I just happen to work in an office for a more industrial company so I have to wear a polo

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 23:26

Yup

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

24 May 2020 23:26

The enemy should have no idea what your capabilies are until you employ them, or after

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

24 May 2020 23:53

So I already have a reloading press for .308 and I'm considering reloading for 5.56 at this point consider how little I use .308. Is it worth it

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

24 May 2020 23:53

Might as well

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

24 May 2020 23:54

At least just to have the knowledge and tools/supplies on hand just in case

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

24 May 2020 23:58

There we go, all done

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

25 May 2020 00:07

Yeah I need to get away from reloading .308, not super comfortable out of a semi automatic platform

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

25 May 2020 00:11 edited: 2020-05-25T00:11:11.96+00:00

Might as well have the supplies. Doesn’t mean you can only shoot reloads

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

25 May 2020 00:11

Yep, reloading stuff might be hard to find right now though

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 00:46

Let’s see it @Confused

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 00:47

I really like the other one

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Dean Winchester
(id: 704457668265377943)

25 May 2020 00:47

https://beasts-tactical.com/collections/frontpage/products/tactical-beasts-ballistic-helmet This isnt a real ballistic helmet I don't think but God damnit it's cool looking

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 00:47

Oh the meme ones are in #🪕memes

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 00:47 edited: 2020-05-25T00:52:41.221+00:00

*replying to @Abe Clark

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goofy_murican
(id: 338043741153656843)

25 May 2020 01:04

That would make a decent bump helmet

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 01:15

Definitely @Remnant, especially for Match/defensive ammo

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 01:15

New World Order Riot Control Force helmet right there

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 02:20

Just keep in mind, it isn’t really ballistic *if you know what I’m sayin* @Cannibal1-1

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 02:21

It's not even rated as a bump helmet and the lenses aren't ANSI rated either... total larp gear. Cool, but china garbage

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 02:24

Oh I just meant *penetration*

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 02:25

It's literally an airsoft larp helmet, it was a big hullabaloo in the AS world a few months back when the manufacturers tried to claim all sorts of specs.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 02:26

I know I almost bought one lmao

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 02:27

It does look cool though

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 02:27

I was 👌🏽 close to picking up one of those helmets lol

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 02:27

Sticking with my boonie 🤷🏽‍♂️

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 02:27

Check out the team wendy stuff with the mandible and riot lens though, not quite as cool, but if you have the cash functional

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

25 May 2020 02:28

Hmmm. Maybe I will. thanks man.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 13:42

Scrolled past this on Facebook

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 14:03

Well said honestly

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GundyBun
(id: 428612040995897344)

25 May 2020 16:59

Cav scout must've wrote that, all that 11B bashing lol

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FRIS/k/Y68WHIS/k/Y
(id: 422513150319919105)

25 May 2020 17:00

Extremely well said.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 17:26

Saw it on tacticool memes page. They tend to share some really reasonable stuff when it comes to best practices, also making fun of people who do things like small of the back carry a rock arms 1911 without one in the pipe in an uncle Mike's holster

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Cure
(id: 426175796911144960)

25 May 2020 17:58

That was painful to read

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

25 May 2020 18:00

I like my ACOG

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 18:06

They're really simple and there's nothing wrong with that. You don't have to worry about fiddling with anything. Only real issue is the eye relief.

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

25 May 2020 18:39

^ yea. Still can’t believe trijicon hasn’t made there accupoints with any of the ACOG reticles

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 18:44

A lot of the acog reticles are better suited for fixed power or 0 power optics

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 18:52

The Anderson finally died, firing pin retention pin broke and the firing pin dislodged and the bolt is now stuck forward

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 18:55

You can pull the barrel offand get the BCG out the front

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 18:56

I got it out but that's just the assement of how it finally malfunctioned/killed itself

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 18:56

Ah

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 18:57

Anderson lowers are fine, uppers too for that matter... it's the internals I always hear issues with

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 18:59

Which one of you has the slideshow of Anderson failures? Add this fellow haha

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 18:59

The only parts I've had issues with consistantly are the take down pins and the extensions on the upper they go through, always wobbly even though I damn near have to hammer them in

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

25 May 2020 19:00

That's the pins more than likely

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 19:01

It was @Confused, what a champ

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 19:01

The pins are to spec, and the pin holes are too, I think the extensions off the upper are a tiny bit too narrow

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 19:01

Yeah that took me forever to make lol

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 19:01

Basically scoured the ar15 forums

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 19:03

Because of the materials used in the upper and lower, structural integrity is probably okay but the tolerances are so bad, and stack on top of each other, that they can cause issues which lead to catastrophic failure

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 19:04

mine also has a rifle buffer crammed into a carbine length buffertube

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

25 May 2020 19:05

Is there a reason for that or....

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 19:06

I don't know, it just does

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 19:06

Wh....what the fuck

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

25 May 2020 19:06

B-but why

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 19:06

It is a fixed stock so maybe some moron though all fixed stocks tool the same buffers

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 19:09

They may have been an after market mod/fuck up but as far as I know everything except the gas block is factory

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 19:27

I’m not calling you a liar, but I’m pretty sure you can’t cycle a gun with a rifle buffer in a carbine tube

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

25 May 2020 19:28

Anyone have any experience with the romeo 1 reflex mounted on a sig p320? Thinking about buying one for my p320-m18.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 19:29

I’ve got like, 100 rounds on one that was on a 229. I would get a more proven optic personally, I think even the newer holosuns have a better track record

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

25 May 2020 19:41

Ill be real with you, I dont know shit about optics when it comes to sidearms lol. I've always rolled with irons. I would just need to buy a mounting plate right? (If I went with another brand)

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 19:47

Depends how your slide is cut

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 19:48

It's looking like its basically impossible to get ahold of a Hodge receiver set. People out there have tried for years, even calling in before a shipment drops, and still can't get them. So I'm looking at a few other brands for receivers, the goal being a fuck you rifle build. (likely gonna give my 11.5 to my fiance to learn with since it's relatively light and small, and very smooth shooting.) So for receiver sets at the moment, I've been looking at forged, and two on the list are Zev and Noveske. Neither of which I have experience with but Zev makes Hodge receivers to their spec and seem to be known for tolerances so tight that it'll hold a barreled upper without pins. Noveske is Noveske, already known for quality. Can't really get stripped KAC uppers and I have my own barrel to use.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 19:50

Could do billet as well but I'm still researching the pros/cons of that.

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

25 May 2020 20:05

It's either a rifle buffer or it's a very long and distended carbine buffer, I'm leaning towards rifle since the gun is a stiff bitch to charge and recoils, differently

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 20:08

Hmmm. Pics? Or measure it

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 20:09

@Confused Gen III noveskes are some of my favorite rifles/receivers.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 20:10

Although it should be noted GenIII Noveskes are SMOS receivers, and Gen4 are Q.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:11

https://www.opdsource.com/ZEV-Forged-Upper-p/2-0004.htm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq2z9pguu5E

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:11

Same listed tolerance of critical parts as the hodge receiver

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:11

then the video shows differences between the noveske and zev forged receiver sets

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

25 May 2020 20:13 edited: 2020-05-25T20:13:48.007+00:00

Zev is a bit cheaper than the noveske too innit

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:15

They're cheaper but appear to have tighter tolerances, or oversized components

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:15

something the hodge receivers are known for as well

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

25 May 2020 20:17 edited: 2020-05-25T20:17:31.858+00:00

Wonder how long my first poverty poney I got a few years ago will last

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

25 May 2020 20:18

Rugers 18” MPR

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 20:18

@Confused you could also patiently scour the used market for hodge, they do appear often enough to get them

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INNATRUCK
(id: 239601910527557632)

25 May 2020 20:20

>tfw muh poverty pony will likely forever be a safe queen at best

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INNATRUCK
(id: 239601910527557632)

25 May 2020 20:20

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 20:21 edited: 2020-05-25T20:21:20.972+00:00

*looks down at KAC laying on the floor* Safe Queen?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:22

idk outside of bench competitions, guns are tools to me. Granted having really nice tools is super cool

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Cure
(id: 426175796911144960)

25 May 2020 20:22

There's also meme guns and flexin guns, don't forget about those

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

25 May 2020 20:23

I shall purposefully and aggressively forget about those.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:24

*when you touch up the cerakote on your shell deflector after every range session*

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Cure
(id: 426175796911144960)

25 May 2020 20:24

Get flexed on

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:28

How well do the gen 3 billet uppers fit together?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:29

If I'm paying that much, I don't really want any wobble. Otherwise, my only concern is if it'll fit whichever handguard I choose.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

25 May 2020 20:34

Looking at the hodge / zev wedge lock rail. Seems to have an even more solid lockup than geissele

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