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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:25

Stripped it for cleaning and when reassembling something went terribly wrong (image is sending pretty bad signal atm)

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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:27

Gun is a taurus g2c .40 if that helps, I've only had it for a bit got it as a cheap home gun

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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:29

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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:31

The barrel appears to be logged in there

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:19 edited: 2020-06-07T04:20:05.632+00:00

Not to be cheeky but Taurus pistols aren't serviceable. They have an incredibly high rate of failure, and while I'd say they're only useful for the range, because of their unreliability they could potentially cause serious injury due to housing small explosions as guns do.

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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:30

Yeah, it was an impulse buy cause cheap gun didn't do much research till after I bought it, and pretty instant regret, I was okay after no FTE or any small malfunction that way, but when it jams up like this during a routine I'm probably just trading it in now lol

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:32

Heh, when I got the EC9 I used to have the guy kept being like “Taurus makes great stuff you should buy it” and I was like look, I’m already being cheap but spare me

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:34

It pains me that gun shop employees often give the worst advice

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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:34

Yeah the shop I bought from were kinda recommended taurus as a cheap fairly reliable brand, I only know of their revolvers which are decent quality, so I said hell why not

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:35

Like the g2 isn’t the worst gun they make but it’s far from as good as other things at the price point

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:35

I went with a ruger ec9 cause they’re actually a serviceable ccw

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

I'm gonna put together a mee6 command with pistol information like I have for ammo and armor

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

Not as good as the 3913 I use now by any means

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

That’s actually a good idea

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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

Funny you say that @The_Black_Knight my carry pistol is a CCP

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[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:38

But yeah this g2c is a real turd I'm coming to realize 😂

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:39

Tldr Good: Glock Sig H&K Walther CZ S&W M&P 2.0 Some others probably not listed Bad: Taurus Ruger Springfield

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 04:40

we need a new Tier AR chart

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:40

Shield is about as bottom dollar as I’ll suggest to people these days

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:40

I’ve just always heard to avoid them like the plague

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:41

Eh most serviceable striker fired pistols are similar enough in quality that it's a non issue. Glock always works but the trigger sucks. ppq and vp9 have the best trigger. Vp9 has best ergonomics.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:42

Aftermarket glock gets into a strange place. Some parts when installed correctly are reliable. Most aren't. Best bet is to not touch the internals and just deal with the trigger.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:44

How to modify a glock 19 Put a trijicon rmr on it Put a surefire x3000 or streamlight tlr1 on it Done

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

07 Jun 2020 04:47

6000+ rounds through my Jericho and not a single issue. Same with my Vz58 probably 8000+ rounds through it even in adverse conditions and never a FTE or FTF or anything

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:48

any time I hear X rounds not a single issue

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:48

idk anything about IWI other than galil and tavor are cool

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:49

Compared to other striker fired pistols, and definitely hammer fired pistols, glock triggers feel like a staple gun. They work though.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:50

In the end, that's all you really need out of a carry pistol

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:56

Just remember, changing internal parts can make a glock's reliability tank. If I were to pick a simple setup to hand to literally anyone with functioning hands, it'd probably be Glock 19 Trijicon RMR Surefire X300U PHLster Spotlight

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:57

It'll serve almost everyone just fine

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 04:57

does sig have a bit more leeway for changing triggers?

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 04:57

Im going to look at the P320 eventually

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:59

Haven't shot one myself but I don't see any reason to change the trigger. It should work fine out of the factory, and with something without an external safety that you're going to have pointed at your leg/dick all day, it may just be the safest route to not mess with it. Glock certainly has the largest aftermarket, and there are triggers and other components that are completely reliable if you have someone who knows what they're doing install it, but I'm paranoid.

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:05

yeah the p320 is what I would put on my belt when I take some classes so I dont need to mess with it alot

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:07

I saw that...

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:08

wasnt it real expensive

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:09

😂

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:15 edited: 2020-06-07T05:16:04.951+00:00

now you know what the real struggle is... trying not to build a gun that has all these cool parts even if it doesn't really help out reliability if not reducing it 😂 its not really worth all that extra money unless you are doing like competitions or something imo @Potatoes O'Reilly

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:26

I wish all guns were unserialized :SadChaton:

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:31

I heard VZ58

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:31

gang gang

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:34

First I’ve heard about jigs

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:34

$150 đŸ€­

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:12

Upper Lower Hand guard Grip Stock Buffer tube Trigger Bcg Barrel Gas stuff Muzzle Sights/optic Sling stuff

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:12

Parts kit

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:13

I think you covered it with the complete upper

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:13

Tell him to see if whoever he buys from sells matching lower for fit and gucci points

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:15

Gotcha, should’ve guessed. You know of any quality lowers that look like the radian weapons lower?

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

80%

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

Doesn’t have to look exact

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

That pmag mag well just does it for me

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:18

Vanilla is fine, just want one with a bit more flare.

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:22

That’s pretty cool. I could have swore I came across a site selling 80% lowers that looked similar to the one above. If I could order one of them and get it engraved, or better yet, get 2 like that, I’d be more than happy. Gonna build a couple of safe fillers cause I sold a lot of my stuff to get my first house/cover closing

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:22

there's a few good sites that sell 80% lowers and parts for a good price

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:23

the site that I know of mainly is ghostguns

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:24

https://www.ghostguns.net/

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:24

I hear that too

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:25

it wouldn't be a shock to me, but some pals have gotten shit from them and they say they're good

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:25

rather cheap kits too, which is good

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:26

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-80-polymer-gen2-lower-receiver-prod71256.aspx?avad=194130_d1b3a7019&aid=155690&cm_mmc=affiliate-_-Itwine-_-Avantlink-_-Custom+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_content=NA&utm_campaign=Itwine

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:26

Don’t really want a polymer lower though. But that’s kinda what I *think* I remember stumbling across a few weeks back

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:28

poly lowers don't last very long from what I hear

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:28

Found another one that’s anodized

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:28

Thank you google images

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:31

loolks like a good selection

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:33

I'm unsure on how I feel on the AR-47

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:33

I think 5.56 AK's are neat

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:34

I'm a little iffy on 7.62 AR's tho

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:57

Would a jig kit that comes with a 80% poly lower work for a forged lower?

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:01

Or is it not the same and I need to buy one separately

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 07:11

I really wouldn't recommend polymer lowers unless it's gwacs or wwsd2020. Other stuff out there isn't designed around the material and tested enough to ensure it'll work

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 07:12

Even aluminum lowers can have problems cracking in certain areas. Polymer is another beast entirely

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

07 Jun 2020 07:12

The jigs that come with poly lowers are usually plastic and designed to be one time use. I'd get a metal jig if you're doing a metal lower.

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:14

That answers my question

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:14

Figured I could save $100 by buying a jig kit for a polymer lower and a forged lower and finishing it that way. Not likely gonna happen now

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:15

Gonna check out gwacs now and see what they’ve got

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:32

he almost did what now?

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:33

they're nearly 2000 per rifle

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:33

are these some sort of hot shit?

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:36

some of these are over 2000 what the hell

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:38

like

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:39

one of their 15 models ranges from 1700-1900

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:39

their 10 builds are at the cheapest 2200

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

you know I kinda want to get an HK ar

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

but I don't have 5 mil in gold

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

and I haven't been responsible for any civilian massacres

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

so they won't sell to me

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:42 edited: 2020-06-07T07:42:53.598+00:00

HK only sells their good stuff to terrorist groups of various governmental legitimacy

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 09:37

Sounds like some Hodge tier stuff

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 09:38

Some people vouch for them with walls of text, others say it’s marked up stuff you can buy elsewhere for less

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thereisonlyoneMAUZER
(id: 655577522938839040)

07 Jun 2020 13:24

POF .308s are worth it. They have a unique form factor similar to an AR15, with the capability of an AR10

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thereisonlyoneMAUZER
(id: 655577522938839040)

07 Jun 2020 13:25

I wouod not buy a POF 556 though

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thereisonlyoneMAUZER
(id: 655577522938839040)

07 Jun 2020 13:25

Also, I wouldnt put DD that high anymore

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 16:14

I don't know much about DD stuff, wonder why the person who made this put them at S tier

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 16:17

Probably because the military “uses” them. Except not reallllyyyyyy

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«grĂ«ĆŸgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 16:20

I wouldn't think they'd be used by military

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 16:24

Well the MK18

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 16:24

But most of those are just the rail afaik

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:13

Dd goes with anderson

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