Citizens Liberty Organization / arizona / arizona-general

Are saying you would purposefully drive your vehicle into a crowd with no provocation?

If theres road blocks and you ignore them sure that would be homicide but come on... I'm sure you've seen the videos of the so called protesters destroying peoples cars for what I really dont know. They're not there to protest they just want to cause violence. They have no idea how many people they're blocking from getting medical treatment. Not to mention it's illegal to block traffic. I'd never allow myself to become victim to a horde of liberal zombies. Also my mother taught me never to play in the road

Yes, but these are very separate things.

There’s a huge difference between “if there is a direct threat, I would use the appropriate force, including my vehicle, to escape to safety” and “I want to go run over people protesting”

^^^that's what im saying.

They closed 35w put it on local television

Driver didnt see television due to being driver

Driver continued down highway

People in road like dumbshits dont understand physics

Sensational news occurs

It's a viscous cycle

Not only that but you dont know if they're just gonna stand there arms linked blocking the road or if they're gonna swarm vehicles and start breaking windows trying to pull people out and gang up on em

Indeed. There is a huge amount of personal judgement and “it depends”. It’s also a good idea not to make it sound like you want to run over protesters on the Internet. If you end up doing that in a justifiable manner, they *will* use that against you

Nobody wants to run over protesters, all anyone wants to do is their job, and get home.

If it's possible to stop before impact I will, if it is impossible to stop my vehicle before them, then they should have closed the freeway long before they showed up

Unfortunately protestors dont exactly pick good places to protest sometimes

Anybody know anything about protests outside the Tempe Police Department? There's mad cops all over Mill and notices are going out for people to call 911 and alert security should they see anybody protesting or gearing up to protest

Oh boy. No first amendment in Tempe?

@[AZ] John Dee Locke I’m in brother. They tend to shut them down though

Let's hope not. I don't intend for edgy shit to be posted or anything that might give off red flags. Im just trying to make things easier for us. Not sure if there's already a group out there, if so please link me!

The last one was shut down not long ago. What’s the name of the group? The link isn’t working for me

Hey all I created a Facebook group and need admins/moderators, feel free to join and shoot me suggestions on how to make it better. Search- Arizona Redacted Liberty Network

I thought this was the highlight of the protest yesterday

@tracer now that’s funny right there

I got good laugh out of it

Ledbetter was arrested and I believe people associated to him have been or will be too. This article seems related to y'all? Just posted a day ago. https://www.dailywire.com/news/acting-dhs-secretary-chad-wolf-feds-have-opened-up-investigations-going-after-leaders-of-antifa-and-other-organizations

**Message for all hands** Please take a few moments of your time to read the message just posted in the Comms channel. Thank you for all that you do Bois!!

Just a reminder, if you haven’t already done so: please take a moment to read the Comms message and shoot me a PM 👍🏻 Let’s GOOO

Are there any local guys that can do customer kydex knife sheaths that are part of the tribe?

Yall see that fire?

What fire?

@[AZ] John Dee Locke You okay brother? Roger up

Alright gents, I’ve given it 3 days. Want to take a guess how many have reached out to actually be out this life? 6. FUCKING SIX!! You all gotta be kidding me. This is your call out. Grow a pair.

Hey guys what's living cost like in Arizona? Monthly not including rent, just food, bills, utilities?

> Hey guys what's living cost like in Arizona? Monthly not including rent, just food, bills, utilities? @AvtomaticKalashnikov for a 1 bed room apartment utilities are from 50-90 depending on ac usage, food about 150-200 p week, gas is 2.35 rn, cox internet $75 p mo, car insurance is not the lowest but not the highest.

my monthly expenses are about $1900 accross the board

I'm gonna try to buy land and a prefab house.

@dirtysanchez thanks

@AvtomaticKalashnikov really depends on the area you're living honestly. Land is pretty cheap tho

I have land for sale 1k per acre

21 miles in the forest

Roof and siding is going up here in the next couple days

> I have land for sale 1k per acre @Untold i can take you up on that

I found some for like $800 and acre. Which is what I'll get. It water shed as well so I can collect water for a green house if need be.

800 an acre but what's the location? @AvtomaticKalashnikov

Alright gents, I gave it one more day, we’re up to 12 motivators. That’s better, but I know there are more of you. Tag your boys that can’t follow simple instructions and LETS FUCKINGGG GOOOOO

@monkey fist

Time and place baby

PM Crash

Alright Bois, I think we’ve got everybody that we’re going to, at least for the time being. I can only hope more will come out of the shadows in the near future. We will have teams designated tomorrow, along with a video message from me personally. Thank you again for all that you are and all that you do

Going forward, we need a reliable place for secure transmissions. For those of you unfamiliar with the term OPSEC, I will break it down in the easiest way that I can. Operational Security generally includes the 5 W’s. Who, What, Where, When, Why. For our purposes, the why is less important. However, the other 4 need to be largely kept off of unsecure channels. Discord is NOT secure. Keybase is an end to end encrypted app that will allow us to pass this sensitive info. I ask that you all install it ASAP. While we can discuss many things here, the specifics of our operations need to be kept secure

I agree

Wire is another decent app fyi

¿Esté?

If anyone needs a ballistic helmet I’m getting a new one and need to sell my current one. Let me know if you or someone you know Is interested. ITAR regs apply. No international.

just downloaded that too

A little tempted, but I don’t quite have the dosh for that right now.

I'm selling tc2000s and tc2002s for under 200

@[AZ] Tantrum yessir that’s the app

We moving to Key?

I hope you guys aren't moving to keybase, the company that owns it is essentially a data collecting group for the Chinese govt

So is there any encrypted app worth a shit or what?

>owned by Zoom Video Communications

Fair.

I think I used to have signal but barely used it

Alright bois, group exercise number one. We need a reliably secure form of communication to pass sensitive information. Ready, GO!

Well, you got Whisper being used by Snowden.

Discord is fine for a lot of things. OPSEC really applies to a small amount of information in our movement

And the national community here is reasonably large which is important.

Two requirements: first, it must be encrypted and *reasonably* secure. Nothing is 100% secure and remember that. Second: it must be easy to use. Our members should not need a one week class to operate the platform

What all do we have to worry about with discord besides avoiding the buzz words?

Any sensitive information is not secure here. Who, what, where, when. Meeting places, training events, operations, etc. That stuff can and will be accessible to the fedbois and we need to prevent that to keep our crew safe

Also this is a kinda public server so really anyone can come here and look at the stuff here

Aside from signal and whisper I don't know of too many other things other than perhaps a smaller private discord

Even if we made our own discord server, the information we pass there is easily accessible to the powers that be. Really no different than Facebook in that regard. Signal may be the ticket. Who can speak to that platform?

wickr doesnt require a phone number or email address or collect data

And that’s good, but is it encrypted and secure? Or can the bitch boys access it at will?

Well rule of thumb is if the govt wants to get in they can get in generally, how much effort they have to do so is another story

wickr is end to end encrypted

seems pretty straight forward. set up username, password

and search for anyone you want to message

Best form would be in person. Have regular meetings. Weekly or bi weekly.

With or without our phones, hm?

When are we planning on meeting I'm down in Phoenix atm

heres a thing, we could in fact raise money and develope our own servers encrypt them and essentially create our own SIPRNET out side of prying eyes. Its not difficult just expensive

Do we have anyone who can set it all up?

yes

problems to over come 1 where to put it (need to be secure location) 2 temperature control (65 degrees and below colder the better) 3 maintenance ( fix bugs, counter hacking, and update accordingly)

for rack servers which will be used you can add and upgrade infrastructure overtime as needed, but average cost is about 2500 per cpu unit, and costs for hot swapable components vary, a 4u would be what would fit the bill

idk if theres IT guys on this forum that can understand

but it would be a project for sure

but from there you can run alot of electronic ops if you have a saavy team

also encryptions need to be top notch to even be close to competitive against the abilities of quantum computers in use by the NSA and DoD

This is the age of “Cyber Warfare.” This would guarantee that our message could not be silenced by a corporate overlord as well (FB, YT, IG, etc.) What would the total cost look like?

in the 100,000’s done right for example the virtualization lab at SCC cost around $250,000 to set up and thats with a building and space already available and its relatively small. But also there was extra redundancies there since it was for educational purposes