I dont understand what half the shit yall are talking about. Lol. Just random things here and there. Someone needs to help those in Portland. That's not right to hold them hostage.
Well my idea would be this. Find a way to get the records of officers. Find out the ones who have had past charges or even accusations. Then figure it out from there.
> I dont understand what half the shit yall are talking about. Lol. Just random things here and there. Someone needs to help those in Portland. That's not right to hold them hostage.
@(ky)¥chubbymcfatass
What conditions are present that force me to?
And whom is being "held hostage?"
And again, why does that necessitate an action on my part?
Im not uncaring or unwilling to help, but, HELP whom? With what?
> Well my idea would be this. Find a way to get the records of officers. Find out the ones who have had past charges or even accusations. Then figure it out from there.
@(ky)¥chubbymcfatass
That is less than half an idea. I understand you are new, but "we gotta do something" or "something should happen" are some of the most expensive and deadly words ever uttered by man
And they are also the least compelling argument for action. We promote personal liberty. This is a difficult and often cruel thing to the novice. Im not insulting you, im simply stating a few facts. It is only with a true understanding of personal LIBERTY that one can attempt to compel another to action. Otherwise you are attempting to force someone to do something.
Oh no I'm not taking offense to anything being said to me. I want to learn about this "club" of ours lol. But in willing to learn about everything in order to gain control of the country.
18 Jun 2020 08:20
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But, given the opportunity, I would start by forcing the police to be subject to the same application of the law as you or I. Research police union contracts. I don't like two legal systems. Second I would require that qualifies immunity end and police retirement funds be subject to seizure for payment of judgement against police
> Oh no I'm not taking offense to anything being said to me. I want to learn about this "club" of ours lol. But in willing to learn about everything in order to gain control of the country.
@(ky)¥chubbymcfatass
Remember civics 101, we the people are the power of the nation. No government is legitimate without the consent of rhe governed.
And I DO NOT concent.
18 Jun 2020 08:25
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As for the escalation of force, ie, the "guard" being used to kill civilians and protesters, that is what is called a war crime. And when a government uses its military force to subdue its populace, they have admitted by action that they are no longer the legitimate and lawful authority
We need to make changes in government. They have to much power without our say. So the question is how do we do it? Should we govern our own states? I believe that the left and the right are both fucked. They love there power. If there was just some way to make it to where the american people would have more say in bills and things of that nature. But the country has gone to shit. And as long as I have bros and sisters to stand by me I'll do anything I can to keep things from getting worse. The media wants a race war. But what we need is a revolution. Fight the power. If we talk all the energy that we had with the protests and things we could use the same energy to go to DC and handle some business.
But if true, the dea does what it does because it is an illegal and unconstitutional agency that should be abolished and agents from the street level to political appointees past and present should be investigated, charged and convicted for kidnapping, theft, destruction of property, civil rights violations and even murder under the color of law
The real problem is that they truly dont see themselves that way. They have been so indoctrinated in statist propaganda that they can justify anything by saying that it was for the "greater good" or "in the publics interest" and even that they were in fact, just following lawful orders. Lawful because the person issuing the order said it was lawful
Fuck literally all of the people who work for, support, or collaborate with the DEA, ATF, or any other fuck off federal agency that serves literally no purpose but to infringe on peoples rights.
And after enough time, they either:
Become jaded and volatile due to the knowledge of there misdeeds or they adopt the mentality of us vs. them, viewing the citizens as presumed guilty and expendable
18 Jun 2020 15:47
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Well my whole point was to see their reaction to being called the bad guy. Then again, they may have no reaction anyway, considering they aren't human.
But is it ethical or correct no. There is a reason all those agencies are supposed to be kept separate and limited even though their entire existence is unconstitutional in my book.
The DEA, the IRS, and the ATF are the three agencies that need to be abolished because their entire existence is founded on infringing on rights of citizens.
And the most infuriating part is that all 3 are executive branch agencies. Meaning, with only slightly more difficulty than combing his hair, Trump could end all 3 today