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Grand pow-wow. Divisive content subject to deletion.

Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 18:28

And many people drive home drunk and are perfectly fine

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 18:28

As dumb and as stupid as drinking and driving is, until you actually harm someone you’ve done nothing wrong

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:28

I can drive high af and drunk af, still drive better than most everyone here can drive sober

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:28

I firmly believe if you kill someone while intoxicated it should tried as murder 1

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:29

here as in where I live.

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 18:29

I can see that sparky

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:29

But is that the right choice @Randy @Randy ? As a responsible adult?

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 18:30

No. But as long as he doesn’t hurt anyone I don’t see a problem

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:31

Most people are going to say no, but if you can drive safer than everyone else on the road despite being intoxicated, I don't see why it's any less responsible than the way these other people are driving.

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:32

But the odds that you do hurt someone is dramatically higher by doing so. So is that equitable under the law to Janice and her 2 kids you killed while doing it?

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Potatoes O'Reilly
(id: 675849063920304138)

17 Jun 2020 18:32

Pretty sure negligent homicide is a charge in many places.

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:33

But it should be murder 1@Potatoes O'Reilly

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:33

It's not dramatically higher. I saw *four* deer while on a drive just last night. Didn't hit any. I've seen many animals and avoided collisions on many occasions while driving drunk and high, although most often just high.

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:34

I've actively avoided collisions that would have been the fault of other drivers.

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:34

But it's a conscious decision to do so

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:35

As an individual that is probably true, but on a national scale?

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Potatoes O'Reilly
(id: 675849063920304138)

17 Jun 2020 18:35

Darwinism will be lit. 😎

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Potatoes O'Reilly
(id: 675849063920304138)

17 Jun 2020 18:36

Idk why sometimes it decides to edit a previous message instead of making a new one. 🙄

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:36

Darwinism is great.....until it runs headlong into you

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:37

Worse drivers pass their exams for their license. I don't see why you can't have something similar for driving while intoxicated. Or just continue pulling over people who are driving erratically, and charge them based on their erratic driving and not on the basis that they're intoxicated.

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:37

You could even go so far as to just add it to the demerit point system, and make an infraction while intoxicated cost more points.

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:39

> Worse drivers pass their exams for their license. I don't see why you can't have something similar for driving while intoxicated. Or just continue pulling over people who are driving erratically, and charge them based on their erratic driving and not on the basis that they're intoxicated. @Randy I think it should be based on the level of intoxication. If your .08 you get a ticket and a fine, they call someone to come get you. If your .15 that's a trip to the big house

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Potatoes O'Reilly
(id: 675849063920304138)

17 Jun 2020 18:40

If you drive well enough absolutely shitfaced you won't get pulled over anyway. Kinda works itself out.

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:40

Of course, I avoid the problem entirely by driving so well I don't get pulled over. But in the event that I go into a store and smell like weed, and a cop sees me pulling out of the parking lot in a car, I don't see why that should land me any punishment.

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 18:43

I think erratic driving should be the basis of any stop. DUI checkpoints and staking out the local bar should be against policy or against the law as entrapment.

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:47

I can agree to that. I don't like the police by any means, but frankly if they care about reducing vehicular accidents they should hand out tickets for tailgating, and other things more often. Instead the police spend resources here terrorising 17 year olds for selling weed, and other more mundane stuff.

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Potatoes O'Reilly
(id: 675849063920304138)

17 Jun 2020 18:48

Either way, I'm a pragmatic anarchist. Any reduction in government pleases me. That's why I actually vote, unlike 99% of other anarchists.

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:48

> I can agree to that. I don't like the police by any means, but frankly if they care about reducing vehicular accidents they should hand out tickets for tailgating, and other things more often. Instead the police spend resources here terrorising 17 year olds for selling weed, and other more mundane stuff. Not that I think the police are the right solution to traffic violations.

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 18:49

But people driving around here really piss me off.

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:02

I worked in a jail for a long time until very recently

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:02

So the drug thing I’m gonna remain on the fence about

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:04

Small, insignificant county, where nobody’s remember your name. Bumfuck nowhere basically. 95% of incarcerations were meth related. Armed burglary while high on dope is pretty common amongst the recidivists here.

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:04

I’d be willing to talk all day about prison reform

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:05

But drugs

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:05

On the fence

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:06

On one hand I can see the reasoning behind decriminalizing it all. No value = no point making and selling it. But in a small town where that shit runs thicker than blood, I highly doubt it’s gonna go away

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 19:07

It’s not about making drugs go away. Drugs will never go away and always be a problem. The main argument is freedom

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

17 Jun 2020 19:07

The state has no right to tell you what you can or can not put in your body, and the state has no right to tell you what you can or can’t sell. Whether or not drugs are good or bad is wholly irrelevant.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

17 Jun 2020 19:07

(And also the war on drugs was *literally* started to harass POC, that’s a fact)

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 19:08

Basically what crye said^

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 19:11

Weed....meh, don't care so much but I think people in some forms of employment should be restricted. As someone that drives an 80k lbs truck I really don't think drivers need to be able to smoke weed when their on the road

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 19:12

But that can be taken care of via company policy.

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 19:14

Yeah, no point involving the government where they need not be involved. If someone crashes into someone else driving an 18-wheeler high af, they can lobby the company to change their policy.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

17 Jun 2020 19:15

^exactly. We can encourage and enforce morality and safety without swat teams flashbanging cribs looking for weed

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 19:17

Again though....if you kill someone in an 80k truck high af then it should be murder 1 and there's a few states where it is

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 19:18

If driving high is intent to kill, then so is pointing a loaded firearm in the wrong direction

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 19:18

I don't think these people are planning to kill anyone

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 19:19

There are no doubt a list of other things people could do that could be construed as pre-meditated murder if that were the case

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Randy
(id: 243518353040211969)

17 Jun 2020 19:19

assuming you applied the logic consistently

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

17 Jun 2020 19:20

I mean no one suggests you arrest people for buying beer because people die in DUI’s

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 19:23

Being that it's an informed conscious decision to drive high af then yes...should be a murder charge. I didn't think so until it happened to my brother in law. 18yo kid drunk af pulled out of a side street and into his bike. Of course it was California and in the end the kid wasn't charged at all

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 19:28

Proving intent is extremely hard. And leaving that open to judges can be a dangerous game.

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:30

Until the court intrigue around self defense shootings ends, people will continue being victims of drug induced/related criminal behavior

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:30

I’m sure some people rationalize burglary to buy an Xbox

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:31

But the vast majority do it for drug related debt or to fund addiction

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:33

Drunkards are sometimes just as bad if not worse than someone strung out on dope, or going through symptoms of withdrawal/pychosis

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:34

I guess its different most places compared to here. There’s no “court intrigue” for self defense shootings when you’re dead to rights. Of course, our POC count is like....5

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:34

God forbid that changes

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:35

It would be easy to assume there would be spins put on it by prosecutors

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canuck-boi
(id: 704503279610232922)

17 Jun 2020 19:36

CIA invented crack lol

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canuck-boi
(id: 704503279610232922)

17 Jun 2020 19:36

Literally destroyed lives

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:36

Just say no bro

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:36

Donate here at notevenonce.com

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 19:37

Totally doesn’t redirect you to actblue.com I promise

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

17 Jun 2020 19:58

What’s the link to the clo shirts? Just picked up a couple of these.

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

17 Jun 2020 19:59

I need a clo one also though

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 19:59

@Potatoes O'Reilly

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 20:00

He makes them^

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

17 Jun 2020 20:02

Perfect. I’ll slide in his dms

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

17 Jun 2020 20:05

Ooo kinky

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

17 Jun 2020 20:06

A little bit. It’s been a minute since I’ve seen any feet pics on this server and that’s really all I’m here for

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Heltor913
(id: 649130476900057089)

17 Jun 2020 20:07

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Heltor913
(id: 649130476900057089)

17 Jun 2020 20:08

Interesting stuff happening gentlemen.

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Spartan Jackal
(id: 332701233116610571)

17 Jun 2020 20:10

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Dean Winchester
(id: 704457668265377943)

17 Jun 2020 20:14

Nice. He shot that man in the back

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Sparky McLovin
(id: 402536444239020032)

17 Jun 2020 20:38

Disagree

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:41

Now that is bullshit I watched from start to finish. Play stupid games win stupid prizes that officer should not get charged with murder this is getting fucking ridiculous now

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:42

Police should withdraw from the shit crime and drug infested neighborhoods and let them implode into the road warrior

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 20:46

Flinch shot

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 20:46

Shouldn’t have ever bothered drawing his weapon in the first place

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 20:46

You can see him go for it before brooks fires the taser.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:47

Shouldn't have fought with the officers and taken the taser off one of them

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 20:48

Flinch shot

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

17 Jun 2020 20:48

1.5 seconds after brooks fired the tasers he hit the parked car

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:48

Especially when your drunk ass fell asleep in a drive through that could have been the middle of a highway

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:50

Yeah because the cunt had the taser. Tase a cop get his service pistol shoot other cop.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:50

I'd smoke him too

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

17 Jun 2020 20:50

“That is our job”

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:50

Yep

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:51

Lamestream media is mk ultra mind control shit

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Rob
(id: 263178786760032256)

17 Jun 2020 20:52

The cop who shot him is the wrong color so he has to be put in jail for life or executed

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Acadian Adventurer
(id: 280732608223248385)

17 Jun 2020 20:53

Good afternoon bois

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

17 Jun 2020 20:55

@BugsyBaldwin did he fall asleep in the drive through? I thought he was parked in the parking lot

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:58

Nope in the drive through the officers made him move his car into a parking space

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:58

Well officer

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

17 Jun 2020 20:59

Got ya

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 20:59

The second officer showed up after the car was moved into a parking spot

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Spartan Jackal
(id: 332701233116610571)

17 Jun 2020 20:59

though it's funny... they inadvertently admitted to a tazer being a deadly weapon. Also turns out the tazer had already been discharged twice before he pointed it at him.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

17 Jun 2020 21:00

And he fired it at the lead officer prompting the second officer to fire his service pistol

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

17 Jun 2020 21:00

Saw a real piss jug today! Just thought I'd share

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