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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 13:37

As some know, CItizens Liberty Organization is looking to become legit. We are thinking of going to NPO route. In order to do that there is a long list of obstacles to get through. No big deal. So with that said, this channel will allow to community to voice what they would like to see in the NPO. Right now we are thinking of- funding under privileged families and people’s that qualify, proper firearms safety/training courses, medical courses, possibly communications training/obtaining HAM radio licenses. Potentially helping with legal fees for those that were arrested for unconstitutional laws. Helping families that have had a loved one killed by ATF, FBI, local police with funeral services, legal fees/representation, possibly housing if it happened in their home and they no longer want to live there? Remember these are just all ideas. This channel is for brainstorming and coming up with a legit course that we can take so I and a few other admins can get the ball rolling. I plan I’m putting CLO in for becoming a corporation very soon, which is the first step to becoming a NPO.

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[FL]Luckygunner264
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08 Jun 2020 13:40

Unlawfully or unjustifiably killed by LEO, correct?

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

08 Jun 2020 13:40

Yes

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 13:42

Like breanna Taylor

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[FL]Luckygunner264
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08 Jun 2020 13:42

Yup

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

08 Jun 2020 13:43

Rights when interacting with police and how to find local lawyers could be helpful

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 13:45

Yup that’s in there. Providing legal fees and representation

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
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08 Jun 2020 13:53

I have a methodological proposition. The author has expressed interest in funding it.

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
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08 Jun 2020 13:53

Peaceful political divorce

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Mountain Man
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08 Jun 2020 13:55

The only reason I said backing politicians is because of the currrnt system we live under. Unless we complete took over government and was able to disband the current one and set up a new one, we gotta play by the rules for now. So by getting like minded politicians in office, even if it’s literally our guys, we can begin to get some change done for future generations to carry the torch

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Thatotherguy
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08 Jun 2020 13:55

NPO means Non profit org right?

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
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08 Jun 2020 13:55

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
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08 Jun 2020 13:56

Ignore the religious argument for now. Though that may be useful later to get the evangelicals agitated for political divorce. The methodological at the end is what's important.

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
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08 Jun 2020 13:57

We can engineer a movement that collapses the court and jail system.

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

08 Jun 2020 13:57

While petitioning to end DC

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

08 Jun 2020 13:58

Using Ghandian methods. Expose the evils of the state

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 13:59

Yes thatotherguy

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 14:00

I’ll check that out as soon as I can taxation

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 14:01

Mountain you would have to do some research and see if NPOs back any politics figure

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 14:01

I can’t imagine that they do

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 14:01

That doesn’t mean though that if we actually took off we couldn’t branch out into other things

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 14:02

CLO doesn’t have to be just a NPO it can be as much as we set our minds to

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 14:02

That is the beauty of this country that we can all be a prime example of

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

08 Jun 2020 14:05

I’ll look into it this week

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

08 Jun 2020 14:05

Got a lot of research to do

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Bender
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08 Jun 2020 17:10

@GRANITE whats an NPO

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SKIPJACK647
(id: 663542510274215952)

08 Jun 2020 17:10

Non Profit Organization

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

08 Jun 2020 17:10

ah

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

08 Jun 2020 17:10

based

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

08 Jun 2020 19:16

Lmao

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countrygirl
(id: 402526104977539093)

08 Jun 2020 19:25

There are lots of different kind of NPOs, you would have to figure out what qualified. And there are restrictions on NPOs regarding backing a political figure. That's a bit tricky.

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Mountain Man
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08 Jun 2020 19:47

Yeah I can see the whole political thing being an issue

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

08 Jun 2020 21:17

Being a spokesperson for anything that violated the constitution would be a good start

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Dyld0mc
(id: 418613853346332692)

08 Jun 2020 21:35

Are people against trying to form a political party of our own from the ground up. If so how would it differ from the Tea Party

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 22:27

Nope I’m for that but that would come in time

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 22:28

I think becoming a NPO is doable from everything I’ve gathered and with the mission focus CLO has. And what we would support

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

08 Jun 2020 22:28

Like I said up at the top. There is no limits for what we could do with CLO

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

09 Jun 2020 02:46

Most of the LP is friendly.

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

09 Jun 2020 02:46

Especially the LPRC

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dookiepie
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09 Jun 2020 03:37 edited: 2020-06-09T03:41:48.329+00:00

How do you plan on funding this? Donations? Please dont ruin this with membership fees lol.

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Heltor913
(id: 649130476900057089)

09 Jun 2020 06:26

Yes it will be donations.

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 Jun 2020 07:09

And major contributions from viewers like you lmao

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

09 Jun 2020 09:00 edited: 2020-06-09T09:02:31.198+00:00

My only concern with going public is we dont have a constituion written up or by-laws. We need to establish specifically what our mission statement is, how we intend to go about completing our mission, and cover our asses by making it known that anyone who doesnt abide by the set forth code of conduct; will have no longer have any legal right to associate themselves with the organization. I think we should make it clear that we have no political affiliations and do not grant the permission of any news source to mis label the organization in affiliation with any political party, or other radical groups, or militia groups etc etc.... If we are going to keep the militia/security/qrf aspect alive, then there is going to need to be a code of conduct written down on how we operate and make it clear that we are organized for defensive purposes only. To aid in the defense of lives, property, and liberties etc. Idk just my 2 cents. You guys do you.

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

09 Jun 2020 09:54

@dookiepie i agree with that. The message needs to be clear

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

09 Jun 2020 10:02

That’s the plan

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 10:38

Yea you can’t become a NPO without having all of that. That is what we will start working on once the process gets started.

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 10:39

It’s going to be out of NH. I’m starting the process for becoming a corporation this week which is step 1

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John Public
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09 Jun 2020 12:03

And we are working on our bylaws and such as well. Its not a one day process but as we get further along we will be looking for input from members

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

09 Jun 2020 12:12

This has got me excited. Lots of potential here. Have you guys created an online store for clo swag yet? Profits from that would help fund this along. Wouldn't hurt to make a go fund me either. I think it would be cool if this was all connected by state chapters. We could eventually have representatives from each state to help organize and establish clo...looking at Lots of time , effort , and money, but its worth in it my opinion....This is the way lol

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 Jun 2020 12:16

Yeah thos is all very not organized yet but the plan is for a npo to create good pr and handle bad pr for state chapters that can then invest more time in actual activities instead of the public perseption angle that fucks a lot of the small groups

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John Public
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09 Jun 2020 12:20 edited: 2020-06-09T12:20:29.04+00:00

Or stealing money from the fed is always an option. Sounds fool proof to me Results may vary

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

09 Jun 2020 12:23

So has anyone considered also forming an independent PAC in conjunction with this?

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 Jun 2020 12:29

No we are thinking of avoiding that at the moment. Going for a political angle is a recipe for losing our souls

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
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09 Jun 2020 12:35

Depends on what the PACs goal is. Kokesh would probably be good to head it and hammer out some details. Think more nullification and disruptive politics.

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Mountain Man
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09 Jun 2020 12:47

That’s not bad

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John Public
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09 Jun 2020 12:49

Yeah we need to get that before someone else does

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dookiepie
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09 Jun 2020 13:04 edited: 2020-06-09T13:34:25.856+00:00

Newmans own is a non profit organizationinzation. They sell food. So long as all the profits get donated we are good.

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countrygirl
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09 Jun 2020 14:28 edited: 2020-06-09T14:28:33.253+00:00

A nonprofit can have a store front, I believe u need to have some sort of donation option with it. Non profits are allowed to make money, just not allowed to show a profit at the end, so it all goes to cover expenses of the NPO.

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countrygirl
(id: 402526104977539093)

09 Jun 2020 14:29

Most non profits with a store front keep a donation jar on the counter

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countrygirl
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09 Jun 2020 14:29 edited: 2020-06-09T14:29:38.354+00:00

If it's online, would be easy to add a donation link

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:30

Yea the majority of it will be online

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countrygirl
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09 Jun 2020 14:31

I don't currently have then link, but there is a list of allowable expenses. Maintaining a website, advertising, all cost money, donations don't cover everything

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:31

But realistically this is still a long time away

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:32

Yea I have a pretty good understanding of how it works.

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countrygirl
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09 Jun 2020 14:33

Kinda figured u did @GRANITE , more for those that didnt

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:33

For sure. I’d say we are looking at 2 years until it’s actually considered a NPO. A corporation I hope to have done within 6 months. All depending on the Covid bullshit too

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countrygirl
(id: 402526104977539093)

09 Jun 2020 14:34

Yeah, it's definitely a process

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countrygirl
(id: 402526104977539093)

09 Jun 2020 14:34

I helped a friend set up her NPO, took a cpl yrs

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:35

Yea the IRS is going to be difficult. They don’t haven have phone lines back up yet

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countrygirl
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09 Jun 2020 14:35

Nope

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:35

Even though we have a ways to go till we get to talking with them

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countrygirl
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09 Jun 2020 14:36

Just do what can be done online, and avoid phone calls as long as possible, maybe they'll have them back up by then

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:39

Yea Nh has an online process which is nice but it’s for smaller NPOs so we have to try and figure if we will generate more than 50k a year for the first 3 years which I think we would

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

09 Jun 2020 14:40

Especially if we are going the direction we want to go.

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SnowRabbit
(id: 717809437477175487)

09 Jun 2020 18:33

This is good stuff guys 👀

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 Jun 2020 18:39

The new NPO page is blowing up and that is wicked fucking cool! I'm so glad to see such involved and interested people. I was a little worried our community would have issues with going this route but Man, they keep suprising the hell outta me. And @GRANITE , brother you are all over it!!!

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Dean Winchester
(id: 704457668265377943)

09 Jun 2020 21:42

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Dean Winchester
(id: 704457668265377943)

09 Jun 2020 21:42

Took your constitution and made a quick pdf file for it @John Public

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[FL]Luckygunner264
(id: 558801481369649162)

10 Jun 2020 03:14

@John Public I take it this makes you a... Founding.... Father?

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

10 Jun 2020 03:33

Lmao lets hope not, for history's sake. But I appreciate the sentiment@Potatoes O'Reilly @[FL]Luckygunner264

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

10 Jun 2020 06:29 edited: 2020-06-10T06:31:30.927+00:00

Clo needs a badass logo and motto. Could we hold a user submitted contest / vote for it?

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goofy
(id: 665414021792530463)

10 Jun 2020 06:31

What you got in mind?

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

10 Jun 2020 06:34

@goofy ive got an idea in my mind, if Its cool with the admins I'll design it up quick tomorrow and drop the picture in this thread.

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goofy
(id: 665414021792530463)

10 Jun 2020 06:35

I don't foresee a problem with going for it

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goofy
(id: 665414021792530463)

10 Jun 2020 06:35

If you want to go for it, go for it chief

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dookiepie
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10 Jun 2020 06:37

I think having a user submitted contest would be cool though. Seems like we have a lot of creative people here, I'd love to see other peoples design ideas too.

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goofy
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10 Jun 2020 06:37

Indeed

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goofy
(id: 665414021792530463)

10 Jun 2020 06:38

It would be nice to see some healthy competition

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John Public
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10 Jun 2020 06:51 edited: 2020-06-10T06:52:14.301+00:00

So yeah, im sure all the admins would be more than happy to see anything anyone has in the way of ideas. We do have a few ideas going already but any positive input is welcomed so let er rip @dookiepie

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Dejectedhook04
(id: 174721124444274688)

10 Jun 2020 06:53

I dig this

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Dejectedhook04
(id: 174721124444274688)

10 Jun 2020 06:54

I'd like to see some independent research done hire someone knowledgeable to get data put together that shows people exactly the kind of threats to our Constitution that is out there and show how it affects daily life cops, laws, criminalization taxes etc

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Dejectedhook04
(id: 174721124444274688)

10 Jun 2020 06:54

Put it as part of our grievances

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

10 Jun 2020 06:56

Honestly 1. Experts are expensive and we are all poors lmao 2. That data set is so well know and ubiquitous that it would be a qaste of limited resources to conduct an actual study. But maybe a good old fashion poll, like in person, with the results made public would be an alternative

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

10 Jun 2020 06:58

But i like the ideas that y'all are putting out there. Please keep it going, we are a community and everyone has a voice. Except @ [sc] Tony lmao. No one wants to hear him😂😂😂

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

10 Jun 2020 10:12

> I'd like to see some independent research done > > hire someone knowledgeable to get data put together that shows people exactly the kind of threats to our Constitution that is out there > and show how it affects daily life > > cops, laws, criminalization taxes etc @Dejectedhook04 The constitution is a threat to itself, tbh. Governments that can tax and make armies never go well. If you look at American history; it's actually quite appaling. The military was used to put down the whiskey rebellion and in 1798, mere dissent was criminalized and many were imprisoned for speaking out. Just identifying as an anarchist in 1798 would have got me arrested back then. Kinda why I don't like the document. Or the idea of another.

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GRANITE
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10 Jun 2020 10:13 edited: 2020-06-10T10:13:51.157+00:00

Yea If you guys want to do a logo contest absolutely do I

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

10 Jun 2020 10:13

It

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

10 Jun 2020 10:31

Also guys a NPO doesn’t do anything political. It’s basically a charity. But once established as a corporation we can branch off into different entities. My plan is to have incorporation papers filed within 4 months so hopefully we are then a corporation by 6 months.

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

10 Jun 2020 11:41

Idk if this has been said but I’m thinking for the firearms training part we get in touch with someone like Sig and just put up money for people who can’t afford it can sign up for classes. Sig is just an example we can do anyone honestly. Just need to make sure we don’t have people abusing it. Posting bail and funding funeral costs and stuff like that will be easy. We could even help find and fund lawyers for victims

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[FL]Luckygunner264
(id: 558801481369649162)

10 Jun 2020 12:42

I think targeting low income communities for firearms training would be a good idea too.

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