Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 📜member-chat [part 25]

I dont know how I feel about that.

I mean he was kind of legit about it. Dont fuck with the Alamo.

Not exactly what he said but that's the impression they took from it

Go burn down the shit that your pissed at not other peoples heritage and private businesses.

Lol same

He wasn't wrong but at the same time he was pretty spastic and made for horrible imaging

yeah im fairly cool with that

I retract my previous statement

i mean dont be a fuckin tardo, but it could have been worse

Agreed.

Problem is he's wearing that shirt, and Texas is using him as another excuse to distance themselves from clo

Texas? Freedom Fighters?

Yup

Yeah

thank god he didnt say something racist lol, ill take energetically anti-state

Dude is from our server?

No!

I need to give him a fucking beer.

He already announced they will not support us at odessa

Cool fuck em.

If your content lying to people and hiding what you truly believe that's on you.

I'm straight up about what I say, have no issue being legit with it.

Kid has wicked ADHD. We all told him earlier to stfu and he went off and climbed a tree. He's pretty unstable.

man people really need to put down their egos and work with each other, pettiness is boring

At this pount, they are cheering for Texas to seperate from the U.S.

Let me put it this way. I know what was in there server originally and if they want to come at us over some kid saying some shit. They are throwing boulders in a glass house.

That is one of my close friends servers and I wont down them, but whoever is trying to down talk this organiziation is no friend of mine.

The feeling in that group right now is they stand for Texas and Texas only

That's the kind of thinking that will take people no where.

I don't know who is running that grp, but he's not on often enough to control it

They trashed the shirts and the b name and are now calling themselves some other shit but the initial are FIT

I think we should go about making established alliances with the people we want to have on our side

it should be clear where we stand

The thing is - I cant control what people in another server say.

So what happens when someone says anti semitic shit and then media gets ahold of it and associates us with that.

They aren't on discord anymore

Oh I know.

Because of yesterday's mess

Yup.

My point actually sharing that is to watch out for the kid coming in here. Goes by pyro Jr ATM but it was roadwarrior.

Oh, I think I recall that name.

> And people in your particular area who claim the “antifa” tag for organization may have completely different views from the over arching theme. It’s at least worth investigating whether or not they’re commies or just punk BLM @Crye Salesman Their "overarching theme" is anyone that doesnt agree with them are nazis and thus they are justified in usage of violence against them. With the goal being the establishment of a communist/socialist state mixed or anaro-communists.

Not really true

Antifa i don't agree with all their politics or views on the idea economic system but as far as i care they can be allies against the State

Nope.

I wont associate with facist.

Same.

If they are commies they mostly anarcho commies (good luck with that idea lol)

Like I said, we really need to solidly establish where we stand and who we stand with

Anyone who uses violence in order to silence others opinions is not welcome in my circle.

I refuse to associate with them. And will peacefully part ways with the group if we decide to ally with them.

if shit goes tits up we need to manage our personal clusterfuck

I would call him a loose cannon but that's not really it....more of an over- enthusiast with dreams of glory. He seems to think civil w#r would be just a fun time all the way around.

so a shitposter with delusions of grandure

Definitely a dangerous mouthpiece

I mean i have never seen antifa initiate violence. I think they are usually just responding to violence.

Man if half these people knew what combat was like they would shit their pants and become boot lickers lol....

I’ve never met a combat vet who was slightly interested in letting the police have a monopoly on violence.

Not saying they would. I said the regular people LARPing

They would see 10 minutes of combat play out and surrender probably.

everyone in every revolution ever was larping until the first round was fired, that’s a stupid argument

Yeah but people are built like they were back then now....

Your severely underestimating that fact.

a lot of people seem to have a romanticised version of war. Those who will run away will, and those who stand and fight will

There is no difference between the people now and the people of the past. None.

Oh yeah?

Human beings have been the same for a thousand years.

There are differences but the enemy has changed in the same ways as any other human

I will def disagree with that one @Crye Salesman

Humans are soft now. Period. They are so acclimated to comfortable living.

True

> Humans are soft now. Period. They are so acclimated to comfortable living. @Heltor913 agreed in the strongest terms posdible!

If you put our grandparents generation and the current generation in an equal fight(same weapons tech, education, age, resources ect.) Hands down their generation wins.

They dont have the same perseverance they did then. Most people don't even have a set moral compass they will follow even if it means dying for it.

That’s not how human beings work. You can go from the softest San-Fran liberal to a hardened killer in less than 24hours. Fact.

Bullshit.

They have a different frame of mind. Tougher.

That's not something that happens overnight.

That's a complete mentality shift that is so drastic.

I mean, some people won’t. Some will lay down and die, but the same thing could be said of ww2. Some people let them selves die rather than shoot back

> That’s not how human beings work. You can go from the softest San-Fran liberal to a hardened killer in less than 24hours. Fact. @Crye Salesman I will agree they can start on the path in 24hrs

The % of people who would refuse to fight would be greater in san fran than say texas

Philosophers then: plato is a nickname basically meaning buff Chad Philosophers today: are air conditioners sexist?

I mean I’m not saying they will have the skills and knowledge, but the mindset and willingness to do violence

Some people will "activate" when shit gets real bad

But let me ask you this.

People are different but nearly every culture retains the potential to be a killer

Yup. There’s been 18yr old white girls studying liberal arts who *literally* ripped a full grown mans wind pipe out rather than be raped.

That doesnt mean that some people arent better suited to it

I think it boils down to a difference in views. People from previous generations saw issues that they didn’t want to deal with but knew they had to. So they put their big kid britches on and did it. Now, a lot of young people, call it under 35, see issues that need dealing with and want someone else to handle it. Probably part of the reason socialism has so many acolytes.

How many people will do what they think is fundamentally and morally right in the face of absolutely over whelming odds. Knowing chances are they are going to die are so astronomical.

Yes, but the idea that humanity as a whole is incapable of stunning levels of violence at the drop of a hat is silly.

Girls can be vicious, most dont have it in them.

Most people now don't even know what a day doing hard labor is. They may be in better shape then they were 200 hundred years back but the mentality of people now is such that they will do everything in their power to not have to give up comforts

It’s all about what’s in your mind, and that *can* change instantaneously.

Capable? Yes. Willing? I think we’ve seen a fair bit from the riots that could make a decent case for that as well. Although the motivations behind the actions will vary tremendously.

Society is so fear driven I have to disagree.

Also while we've been desensitized to violence somewhat, there's a very long and well documented history of how difficult it is to train someone to kill effectively. One of the strongest human urges is not to kill another person, because once they're defeated, going for the kill can back them into that corner where they become much more dangerous. A typical person has to either have extremely strong love for family and friends, be a psychopath, be backed into a corner, or conditioned to kill effectively.

Physical fitness is unrelated to their willingness to be violent, and in some cases, unrelated to their ability to be violent

They studied this heavily between the civil war and wwii because most people just wouldn't shoot to kill