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And Finicum (Odin rest his soul)

He gave you life and established you, reverse check mate.

For me, there can be Mormon cult members and normal Mormons in the same congregation. You can practice the religion without worshipping the leaders and worshipping a certain lifestyle

Except for, not

That only works for people who believe you

Nope

Whenever someone makes loud pronouncements that they don't fuck kids I wonder what they do that's so immoral they need to move the bar that low lol

Did I just get muted for asking questions

Its either entirely irrefutable or impossible to not be true

you said the b word

@minorthreat

No you probably used the b word.

the b word is that one word that is the reason we're all here

referencing a particular house made of ice

It's our word and we can't even say it here

Smh

it may or may not be large

@Jon I was responding to the previous message that said that god was the only thing that prevented people from that behavior

B**g?

yes

especially when you attach a-loo

Oooooh

the bot does NOT like that

The line between "cult" and "organized religion" is so blurred that it ceases to be useful. You can make your religion into a cult by how you live it, no matter what you practice

I’m sorry

it gets very angry

I mean, the shallow understanding of Thelema usually goes hand in hand with "if God didn't exist I'd probably fuck kids"

small, local churches are usually where i draw the line between "good organized religion" and "bad organized religion"

but im talking small fucking churches like

sub-100 people

> If a man thinks murder is okay and actually enjoys it and he enjoys rape and pillage and it doesn’t go against his code, it’s okay for him. Pedos think fucking kids is okay, it isn’t wrong to them. Some think they have the right to tyrannically oppress others, who can what is right or wrong except God? God lays the foundation, men pervert it. “Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” comes to mind. @Karlow Alderam because he’s literally saying that god is the only one able to establish that child abuse is morally wrong

@Jon

All hail the big ice house

but hey

i pray to my lord and savior, Eugene Stoner

and his son, Mikhail Kalashnikov

The bottom line is that whatever Koresh was doing he had the natural right to do it

That's the only b-approved position we need

the father = Eugene Stoner The father = Mikhail Kalashnikov The Holy Spirit = Edmund Heckler&Theodor Koch

I pray to my lord and savior, Eugene Stoner and his son, Mikhail Kalashnikov@Bender im interested in your church

@Crye Salesman you nd I may think it’s wrong but who is to say it’s bad if it works for them.

Dude why aren't we mentioning fuckin John Moses Browning lol

too many to name

@Jonpatron Saint of ass whoopin

Like a solid baseline of that if I was a child I wouldn’t want to be abused? Is that not enough? @Karlow Alderam

Mormons invented the good American guns lol

wait

crye, karlow

what are you guys arguing about

@Jon true

LOL

oh man

that was ***dark***

that was dark even by my fucking standards

@Crye Salesman Fair enough, as Americans, it’s anyone’s right to not be forced to believe in God and to live their life as long as they aren’t harming or infringing on others.

Oh man what did I miss in there

The question was on the separation of church and state and the religious subtext in the constitution

church and state should ***always*** be separated

I mean I would like to clarify @Karlow Alderam, that this is a philosophical discussion, I have no problem with people of any religion, I just like to debate

My bad. Ive got terribly dark humor. And unfortunate experience in that. Not from church but personally non the less

@minorthreat but does that negate the declaration of rights all bc it mentioned God?

Eh I think we could chop that up to period, and just replace it with natural rights?

You have the rights you're willing to take and defend

well technically

I don't care if God says you can or can't rape my kids. I said you can't, and I have a gun

@Karlow Alderam that was my question

the constitution doesn't mention God specifically does it? it just says the creator

True

@Crye Salesman I don’t mind discussions either bro man. We as Americans are at least called to be moral men, with balls of steel, who will go above and beyond to secure freedom and prosperity for our nation and their peoples.

@Bender the founders mentioned Providence and the creator, specifically avoided God

To avoid alienation

"peoples", that's a third rail lol

founding fathers were fucking BASED

I’m not religious I just enjoy the discussion with level headed people

except for the owning slaves part

i dont like that part

but other than that they were based as fuck

yes they did

Not all were fans of slavery

but they can be wrong about *that* and be right about everything else

There were people who almost refused to sign the constitution because slavery wasn’t ended then

Fisher Ames was right about stuff too

The founders were a coalition of different people with different backgrounds and different beliefs

The British could have tried to get them to argue religion and race and politics but nope

It was burgertime

@Bender I don’t think all the founders owned slaves, did they? That took money and enough land to justify the purchase. Maybe some of them did, but that’s just the way it was, this is one example of how tradition can be reprehensible.

not all of them, but some did

washington and jefferson to name a few

Tradition is the democracy of the dead. They don't have to have the veto but they deserve a vote

If tradition is oppressive you're a slave

@Jon What do you mean, “peoples is a third rail”

God in the Christian/ Jewish form . natures God, the presence of God, yes but they didnt want an established church or the smell of one so didnt mention a particular religions god. Not to mention that most of them were deists and humanists

I've been watching waco, I think we need to build a mt carmel lol

What did I miss in command chat earlier? I was occupied, so I couldn't join.

On a indian reservation

It's pretty obvious what I mean to anyone seriously thinking about America After

Anything important?

Not everyone here can talk to everyone else

@Deleted User big things coming. Stay tuned to your local channels.