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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 📜member-chat [part 9]

Grand pow-wow. Divisive content subject to deletion.

Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:14

And Finicum (Odin rest his soul)

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:15

He gave you life and established you, reverse check mate.

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

09 May 2020 01:15

For me, there can be Mormon cult members and normal Mormons in the same congregation. You can practice the religion without worshipping the leaders and worshipping a certain lifestyle

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:15

Except for, not

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SKIPJACK647
(id: 663542510274215952)

09 May 2020 01:16

That only works for people who believe you

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Anonymoose
(id: 219990860127928320)

09 May 2020 01:16

Nope

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:16

Whenever someone makes loud pronouncements that they don't fuck kids I wonder what they do that's so immoral they need to move the bar that low lol

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:16

Did I just get muted for asking questions

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SKIPJACK647
(id: 663542510274215952)

09 May 2020 01:16

Its either entirely irrefutable or impossible to not be true

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:16

you said the b word

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:16

@minorthreat

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Anonymoose
(id: 219990860127928320)

09 May 2020 01:16

No you probably used the b word.

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:16

the b word is that one word that is the reason we're all here

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:16

referencing a particular house made of ice

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:16

It's our word and we can't even say it here

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:17

Smh

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:17

it may or may not be large

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:17

@Jon I was responding to the previous message that said that god was the only thing that prevented people from that behavior

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:17

B**g?

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:17

yes

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:17

especially when you attach a-loo

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:17

Oooooh

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:17

the bot does NOT like that

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

09 May 2020 01:17

The line between "cult" and "organized religion" is so blurred that it ceases to be useful. You can make your religion into a cult by how you live it, no matter what you practice

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:17

I’m sorry

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:17

it gets very angry

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:17

I mean, the shallow understanding of Thelema usually goes hand in hand with "if God didn't exist I'd probably fuck kids"

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:18

small, local churches are usually where i draw the line between "good organized religion" and "bad organized religion"

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:18

but im talking small fucking churches like

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:18

sub-100 people

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:18

> If a man thinks murder is okay and actually enjoys it and he enjoys rape and pillage and it doesn’t go against his code, it’s okay for him. Pedos think fucking kids is okay, it isn’t wrong to them. Some think they have the right to tyrannically oppress others, who can what is right or wrong except God? God lays the foundation, men pervert it. “Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” comes to mind. @Karlow Alderam because he’s literally saying that god is the only one able to establish that child abuse is morally wrong

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:18

@Jon

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:18

All hail the big ice house

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:18

but hey

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:18

i pray to my lord and savior, Eugene Stoner

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:18

and his son, Mikhail Kalashnikov

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:19

The bottom line is that whatever Koresh was doing he had the natural right to do it

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:19

That's the only b-approved position we need

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:19 edited: 2020-05-09T01:19:59.234+00:00

the father = Eugene Stoner The father = Mikhail Kalashnikov The Holy Spirit = Edmund Heckler&Theodor Koch

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 May 2020 01:20

I pray to my lord and savior, Eugene Stoner and his son, Mikhail Kalashnikov@Bender im interested in your church

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:20

@Crye Salesman you nd I may think it’s wrong but who is to say it’s bad if it works for them.

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:20

Dude why aren't we mentioning fuckin John Moses Browning lol

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:20

too many to name

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 May 2020 01:20

@Jonpatron Saint of ass whoopin

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:20

Like a solid baseline of that if I was a child I wouldn’t want to be abused? Is that not enough? @Karlow Alderam

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:20

Mormons invented the good American guns lol

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:20

wait

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:20

crye, karlow

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:21

what are you guys arguing about

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

09 May 2020 01:21

@Jon true

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:21

LOL

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:21

oh man

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:21

that was ***dark***

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:22

that was dark even by my fucking standards

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:22

@Crye Salesman Fair enough, as Americans, it’s anyone’s right to not be forced to believe in God and to live their life as long as they aren’t harming or infringing on others.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:22

Oh man what did I miss in there

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:22

The question was on the separation of church and state and the religious subtext in the constitution

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:22

church and state should ***always*** be separated

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:23

I mean I would like to clarify @Karlow Alderam, that this is a philosophical discussion, I have no problem with people of any religion, I just like to debate

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 May 2020 01:23

My bad. Ive got terribly dark humor. And unfortunate experience in that. Not from church but personally non the less

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:23

@minorthreat but does that negate the declaration of rights all bc it mentioned God?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 May 2020 01:23

Eh I think we could chop that up to period, and just replace it with natural rights?

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:24

You have the rights you're willing to take and defend

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:24

well technically

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:24

I don't care if God says you can or can't rape my kids. I said you can't, and I have a gun

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:24

@Karlow Alderam that was my question

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:24

the constitution doesn't mention God specifically does it? it just says the creator

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:25

True

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:25

@Crye Salesman I don’t mind discussions either bro man. We as Americans are at least called to be moral men, with balls of steel, who will go above and beyond to secure freedom and prosperity for our nation and their peoples.

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 May 2020 01:25

@Bender the founders mentioned Providence and the creator, specifically avoided God

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 May 2020 01:25

To avoid alienation

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:25

"peoples", that's a third rail lol

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:25

founding fathers were fucking BASED

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:25

I’m not religious I just enjoy the discussion with level headed people

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:25

except for the owning slaves part

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:25

i dont like that part

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:25

but other than that they were based as fuck

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Karlow Alderam
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09 May 2020 01:26

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:26

yes they did

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 May 2020 01:26

Not all were fans of slavery

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:26

but they can be wrong about *that* and be right about everything else

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minorthreat
(id: 704451813184897206)

09 May 2020 01:26

There were people who almost refused to sign the constitution because slavery wasn’t ended then

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:26

Fisher Ames was right about stuff too

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:27

The founders were a coalition of different people with different backgrounds and different beliefs

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:27

The British could have tried to get them to argue religion and race and politics but nope

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:27

It was burgertime

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:27

@Bender I don’t think all the founders owned slaves, did they? That took money and enough land to justify the purchase. Maybe some of them did, but that’s just the way it was, this is one example of how tradition can be reprehensible.

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

09 May 2020 01:27

not all of them, but some did

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Bender
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09 May 2020 01:27

washington and jefferson to name a few

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:28

Tradition is the democracy of the dead. They don't have to have the veto but they deserve a vote

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:28

If tradition is oppressive you're a slave

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Karlow Alderam
(id: 705209295993700392)

09 May 2020 01:29

@Jon What do you mean, “peoples is a third rail”

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

09 May 2020 01:29

God in the Christian/ Jewish form . natures God, the presence of God, yes but they didnt want an established church or the smell of one so didnt mention a particular religions god. Not to mention that most of them were deists and humanists

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Melmanreks
(id: 705742915829366804)

09 May 2020 01:29

I've been watching waco, I think we need to build a mt carmel lol

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Deleted User
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09 May 2020 01:30

What did I miss in command chat earlier? I was occupied, so I couldn't join.

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Melmanreks
(id: 705742915829366804)

09 May 2020 01:30

On a indian reservation

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:30

It's pretty obvious what I mean to anyone seriously thinking about America After

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Deleted User
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09 May 2020 01:30

Anything important?

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Jon
(id: 217730870587424769)

09 May 2020 01:30

Not everyone here can talk to everyone else

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John Public
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09 May 2020 01:31 edited: 2020-05-09T01:31:14.07+00:00

@Deleted User big things coming. Stay tuned to your local channels.

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