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VIRGINIA!!!

South Carolina

Also South Carolina

Mississippi

Does Tennessee count here?

I don’t see why not

Reno is the best

And to think I thought he pinned my message 😢

Damn. We should add texas to this. Get the gang back together.

If you live in a border state I’d be active in both

Oh definitely. Would he active in as many as you can really. Get people across the nations

NE GA Any one else in area?

NF

We got Virginia and Kentucky to worry about in here. If y'all need back up I'll make the drive

Far East SC

NC on border of TN

https://m.facebook.com/groups/775899962874451?view=permalink&id=888718898259223

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/05/05/we-are-just-starving-south-florida-barber-says-as-he-illegally-reopens-business/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=snd&utm_content=wplg10&fbclid=IwAR2T_Q63UAwj6awnInkfYgajVKOu1Xth8qJtpj6AN0UYHdEY6nd-zwHy7bM

Liriano owns the Lion barbershop on State Road 7 in Miramar.

Throw that in #florida-general

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Just think it’ll be very beneficial there as well

And maybe even #georgia-general

It's deaderthen shit in here. The southeast is the best region in the state for starting shit but yall quiet

What’s your suggestion then @Dean Winchester

Finding a business that wants to open and pulling an Odessa without the holding hands up part.

So essentially giving the media the country en mass another reason to hate us?

You have to persuade heart and minds to accomplish anything

Hence the standing up for local businesses part.

“Without the holding hands up part”. So what’s your plan?

Stand your ground. The law.

You shoot them they shoot back. You die and the whole movement suffers.

The movement suffers when you to there to defend and don't defend when it needs defending

Go*

The boys in Odessa did it right. They have lawyers and are fighting it in court. They were wrongfully convicted and the media is focused on that. If they had murdered a few cops the headlines would be vastly different

I am proactively searching for solutions. Don't nit pick my motives. Show me a better idea if you have one.

Voice your opinion at local board/city hall meetings. Be active in your community and win over hearts and minds so that you slowly awaken people

If a business wants to open then yes go stand in front with full kit but “stand your ground” is going to negative outcomes for both you and the movement as a whole. We need good press

We need people to see we’re not gun toting psychopaths and instead just simple freedom loving Americans. The PR thread has some pamphlet templates. Print out a few 100 and hand them out when your standing in front of that business you’re protecting

This is the part that always kills me. We have casualties on our side but even the the instance of defending oneself its somehow considered wrong for returning the favor

That’s due to public image. Since birth people are taught that cops are the good guys that can do no wrong. We have to change that image by pointing out their fallacies and using their own system against them

Imo you're playing mlk theories in a group that more identifies with Malcom.

So let me get this straight. You want to help keep a business open, and than when cops come to shut it down you want to stand your ground

Correct?

@Dean Winchester

Allegedly

What do you mean by allegedly

Because we are not here to instigate violence.

You understand?

Neither am I. Defense is not instigating. Standing your ground is legal in Florida. I am a law abiding citizen.

Stand your ground absolutely is legal in Florida, but you’re insinuating as something that is pretty damn illegal, which is not what we need right now.

If you want to go help open a business I have no qualms with that, just don’t be stupid. Odessa did it right, violence is not the answer, yet.

I'm not insinuating anything illegal

Dude

Come on

> “Without the holding hands up part”. So what’s your plan? Stand your ground. > > The law.

The law. Yes. Defense yes. Not illegal

That’s insinuating something pretty bad right there, don’t you think?

Stand your ground against who?

And what exactly will that consist of?

Stand your ground laws is a reach my man

Stand your ground is in terms where you fear great bodily harm or death from someone enacting against you or your home

Cops enforcing a bullshit city ordinance does not qualify use of deadly force against them

Thank you Web.

Hmm ok. Let's chalk it up as a misunderstanding then and to ease your minds I would in no way harm someone who isn't attempting to harm me.

Also are the pamphlets you're referring too the ones that say this is a civil war? I don't agree with that message. Civil War is citizens fighting against fellow citizens. That doesn't fit.

Simply a template. Change how you see fit

And yet that still blatantly sounds bad

Okay listen man. Just don’t blatantly say shit like that. It sounds horrible, and if that is outed it’ll sound even fucking worse.

You seem upset and I don't understand why. So let's agree to drop it. If it's passing out pamphlets and having a civil discourse with people. I can definitely do that. My bad if I came in hot.

There have been a lot of people recently advocating for unprecedented violence recently and I have a splitting fucking migraine. I just wanted to ensure you were trying to bring people together to start violence, because that’s not what this server is meant for

Also if I curse I’m usually not mad, it’s just apart of my vocabulary at this point 😂

@Dean Winchester we’re all a bit radical it’s ok but we’re getting too much attention. We need to work on getting the public support and building our numbers.

Sounds good.

@[MS]WebMDemt just throwing out ideas. Maybe go on reddit and do a AMA about the group. 🤷‍♂️

Have we thought about writing up a pr statement other than the pamphlet thats going around, to hand out to businesses?

Actually no. Do you want to elaborate?

I do think it’s a good idea

Like a script to go by so when we go to our local councils were all on the same page, and a pamphlet that explains were not going to blaze of glory the bar, unless all other measures have been exhausted.

Because if we all go to our local councils off hinged not on the same page our movement will suffer due to not being coordinated.

If that makes sense?

I’ll bring it up and get back to you, thank yiu

Thank you!

I know for me personally, its a hard sell where I'm at, its a much larger population of college kids, vs locals.

Oh god college kids

Right, but its what im dealt, therefore our front needs to be won there also.

@Dean Winchester not a bad idea but also not reaching that many people especially if it doesn’t get upvoted. @[NC]sampson that’s a great idea. We have a local chat set up on 🔑 that I’ve been talking with my local guys about public image. We need to start out by all being upstanding members of the community as far as surface level, do good deeds, attend board/city hall meetings and take an active part in bettering the place you live(easier in small towns obviously) but work your charm and rub elbows to the point people start asking your opinion and taking it into serious consideration then you preach our rhetoric

You can be critical of big government and corrupt policing without being radical

Identify what you want to change in your community from there your surrounding community and then onto state Gov’t so on and so forth. Even the founding fathers held congressional meetings before Lexington and Concord

This is true, but also I want to make sure what I say is 100% what were backing.

Through and through this is a political movement and as such there will always be disagreement but the general consensus is small/limited government, legalization of marijuana, abolishment of all gun control laws, and minimal policing

Got ya!

As a libertarian that sounds exactly like being a libertarian. @[MS]WebMDemt

Pretty much @Dean Winchester just a very radicalized version

I found this and have been posting it in the comments of different threads. It’s a start. I know it was a rough draft but it looks good to me 🤷🏻‍♂️

I've got a copy of that. It's 2 sided

Well I think I have a different one. Hold on a sec

@boog3r69 this is the one I have

@Lucky Texan Yeah I think the one I have is a little more appealing. The one you shared had mixed comments on the post I saw that someone shared it. And I think people are more likely to read the one I got, cause people are lazy and don’t wanna read more than they have to to get the point