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For the sharing and discussion of communications systems such as radio transceivers, and related topics.

EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:07

And that's pushing it

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[TX]YimYam
(id: 652657530786545755)

04 May 2020 05:08

In an emergency I’m sure you give your left nut for a little bit of extra distance if it’s what you need

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:08

With 10 watts and the best antennas money can buy and the most I've gotten out in the desert was 8 miles

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:08

Where I live in open farm land with houses you're lucky to get 3 miles

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:09

Now that's with hand helds... a 40 watt mobile or base will obviously get you a little more

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:09

But 10-15 miles is really it with simplex.

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[TX]YimYam
(id: 652657530786545755)

04 May 2020 05:10

I eventually wanna get one in the car but idk how to wire it

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:10

Most plug into the lighter

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

04 May 2020 05:11

In what respect? I deal with adaptive equipment in vehicles, may be able to help

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Yeetasaurus Rex
(id: 238880292138385418)

04 May 2020 05:11

so im seeing a ton of mixed answers here. Are UV-5R's trash or what?

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:11

They are cheap Chinese radios

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Yeetasaurus Rex
(id: 238880292138385418)

04 May 2020 05:11

let me rephrase that. Are they worth getting if you have nothing?

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:12

Yes

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

04 May 2020 05:12

The answer is hardly no to that question lol

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:12

They can just break easily... in operating conditions they all work the same at the same power levels.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

04 May 2020 05:12

If you have nothing else, they work for emergency comms and talking on the fly. For single channel plain text.

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

04 May 2020 05:13

Whats your opinion of BF-F8HP

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:13

But for a few hundred you can get some really good ones that are made in Japan instead and are waterproof and tough

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Yeetasaurus Rex
(id: 238880292138385418)

04 May 2020 05:13

What is something i wont destroy in "elk season"

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:13

@Yeetasaurus Rex do you get wet often?

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Yeetasaurus Rex
(id: 238880292138385418)

04 May 2020 05:13

always moist my dude

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

04 May 2020 05:13

This is getting sexy

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:14

@[CA] SoyBoi I own a few BF8's honestly I love them because if they break it's no sweat

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Yeetasaurus Rex
(id: 238880292138385418)

04 May 2020 05:14

in colo, so mostly dry, but damn when it rains it rains

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:14

I've destroyed Motorola's

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:14

@Yeetasaurus Rex look into yeasu, find a waterproof one and call it a day

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[TX]YimYam
(id: 652657530786545755)

04 May 2020 05:14

Mines drop dust and water resistant

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:14

@[TX]YimYam what rsdio

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Yeetasaurus Rex
(id: 238880292138385418)

04 May 2020 05:14

i used to use xts5000's back in the uniformed days, but as you said, that shits impossible to get setup as a civ

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[TX]YimYam
(id: 652657530786545755)

04 May 2020 05:15

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:15

@Yeetasaurus Rex getting them is easy, not cheap, but easy

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:15

@[TX]YimYam I've heard good things about those

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[TX]YimYam
(id: 652657530786545755)

04 May 2020 05:16

Only $52 comes with 3800mah battery 2x chargers head set clip and retention strap

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[TX]YimYam
(id: 652657530786545755)

04 May 2020 05:16

Oh and a really antenna out the box

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

04 May 2020 05:19

Is there any common channels if SHTF to look out for to see if anyone's out there 🤔 let's say you need help or some shit

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:19

Not really

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[TX]YimYam
(id: 652657530786545755)

04 May 2020 05:20

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:20

Kinda, but not really

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:20

Depends on the area and no guarantee someone is listening

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Yeetasaurus Rex
(id: 238880292138385418)

04 May 2020 05:20

https://www.radioddity.com/products/baofeng-gt-3tp-mark-iii-two-way-radio-3800mah-battery

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:20

> @redbeard I've been looking at the APX series, but I've always held off because I have 25 licensed UHF channels from the FCC and most of the people I work with use standard UHF channels. @EDDSkitz nothing about an APX limits you from operating on an analog uhf channel if the radio is a uhf model or multiband model.

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:21

@redbeard really? I thought they were only 700/800/900

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:21

My channels are in the 500 business band

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:22

> Getting even business band channels licensed is expensive, and P25 digital even more so. If you're just talking with your crew, the FRS bands tend to be fine for most. @EDDSkitz itinerant channel licensing is cheap and easy, and you can specify what emissions mode you want for no extra charge at all. We have all of our set up for all emissions modes just because.

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:23

@redbeard yeah, that's what I have

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:24

Cheap if you don't yourself, but I paid a company to do it so nothing got messed up... the government sucks

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:24

*do it yourself

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:29

Yeah the APX is available in vhf, uhf in two ranges, 700/800 in one radio, and 900. Then there are dual band models, and multi band models. Mine is an APX 4000 in vhf

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:29

Oh, okay... I'll have to look into that again...

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:29

What did the 4k run you?

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:30

APX 7000 with vhf and uhf range 1 and the FPP option is ideal. Or an APX 8000 with vhf/uhf full/and 7/800.

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:31

I traded an XPR 5550 vhf mobile for it, so I’d say about $500ish

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:31

I priced out a 6k a while back just for shits and it was like 2500 or something

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:32

Was just wondering if the uhf only stuff is cheaper

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:32

But that also was with the software

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:32

Our software for the CP200's was like 800 bucks 8 years ago

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:33

My 7000 xe was $2400, brand new sold out the back door of the federal depot haha

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:33

Lmfao

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:33

Software is all online so pirate copies are easily obtained

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:34

And I have depot level software so I can activate all required features without paying for them

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:35

Do you know if the encryption is on the non 700/800 models? I know you're not supposed to use it on 500, but ya know....🤷‍♂️

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:35

Oh, I guess that would be software locked huh?

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:35

You can use it on any freq the radio is capable of. We run aes 256 on FRS all the time lol

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:35

😂

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:36

Okay, maybe I'll have to look into a few of the lower end models again

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:43

There’s a lot of surplus XTS 5000 out there worth grabbing

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:44

Was just on ebay... lots of 4k 400-512's out there for 500-600

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:45

Would just need a programming cable and NATO wired PTT for my peltors

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:45

Yeah and that

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:45

...

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:45

That’s nice because these radios are meant to work with all that hot shit operator gear like peltors

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:46

So adapters are easy to find and work properly

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:46

Yeah, I have some specialty gear made for the baofengs to work with all that

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:47

Amplified PTT and vest mounted antenna

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:47

The up side is we use kenwoods at work and I use my peltors there too, so same PTT

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:47

:barf

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:47

Yeah, but they work 🤷‍♂️

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:48

I had 150 Motorola CP200's until a few years ago

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:48

So do Hi-Points but nobody is telling people to buy them in the armory lol

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:48

When I sold them that's when I was looking at buying a couple APX's

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:48

Cp200 has been a workhorse for awhile in the business world

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:48

I mean, think what you want but they work

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:49

But even Motorola makes the distinctions between business radio and mission critical radio

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:49

Yeah, but I've destroyed more 200's than uv-5r 😂

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:50

Yeah, I'm probably gonna grab 2 of these 4k's

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:50

I don’t think ‘work’ means what you think it does haha. How’s the desense from nearby transmitters? How’s the spurious emissions that are wasting your output power?

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:51

That two pin mic connector is no where near water resistant, it’s a funnel to pour water straight onto the internal pc board

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:51

Yeah, but most people never notice that stuff

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:51

“The more you know”

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:51

I open all mine up and use conformal coating, I can drop mine in the water

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:51

People don’t know what they don’t know and everyone skipping by all those major defects doesn’t teach anyone

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:51

And have

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:52

I agree, but most people think $350 for a yeasu is expensive

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:52

Well you can’t conformal coat any of the button pads or inside the volume pot and that stuff WILL corrode

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:52

‘Most people’ will say that then spend 2k on an AR

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:53

So they just have a poor idea of what radio is and how much proper radio comms cost and act accordingly because of everyone acting like a buttfang is the holy grail

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:53

Really the o ly reason I run the baofeng iver any of my cp200 or the kenwood I have is they are front panel programmable and literally everyone uses them so I never know what channel I need to be on.

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:55

True FPP is a nice asset but when you put it in the hands of the unwashed you end up with paint ballers all talking shit unknowing on the local sheriff frequency

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

04 May 2020 05:56

Lmfao... except VERY few government agencies aren't on P25 at this point... they usually just end up pissing off the local HAM club

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redbeard
(id: 576640967927660555)

04 May 2020 05:57

That’s a wide brush you’re painting with. My locals here are all vhf and uhf analog except for the state police

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