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Killgore (id: 136633050648936449)
04 May 2020 11:13
I should add I'm not attempting to bash anyone. I wasnt in the position to make the call, I wasnt in position to be there myself. All I'm saying is I see the need to streamline the efficiency and even engage in thought experiments like the ones above (a sort of war games if you will) to hammer out a methodology of response
@Reno we are all individuals attempting to come together for a common goal. I wasnt trying to say anything was right or anything waswrong. But without sitting down, discussing and truly hammering these details out, how are we supposed to act as a coherent unit.
04 May 2020 20:13
@[MS] Foxtrot795 this is the kind of lazy, taken from the authorities mouths only reporting that we need to fight against. They dont even use the old "allegedly" anymore. Its just all reported as facts. 😠
@[OK] Hopefully Heroic no streaming because they're sheep in their homes. And what would they film? They won't get anywhere near any sort of activities. As for the media, they don't cover anything that doesn't fit the narrative of "this is all going great except for those few insane people whining about rights"
I thought that was kinda given. Anywho, any plans or information on response to this Odessa bullshit? Posting up en masse in the areas, or just relying on lawyers to do lawyer things and continue to not getting anything done for another century.. Sad times.
A major issue with this sort of thing is that the government will always bring more people, and is always willing to escalate to a higher level of violence. Force on force is not an option in these cases, and deterrence only works temporarily unless on a massive scale.
Well, revolutions only begin 1 way. Legal and peaceful isn't working so far sadly, and hopefully it doesn't come to violence; But it's only a matter of time before it does if anyone really wants things to change.
What sucks is all the people who could have been there. I dug around looking for info after it happened and with the amount of people flapping gums about supporting our dudes there could have easily been 100 or more people there. They just didn't go.
The way to win at this sort of stuff is to cripple your larger opponent and make it difficult for them to effectively operate. Traditionally called some hotwords that I'll refer to as not symmetrical disagreements. Now this doesn't have to be physical. One example is the church of scientology (I mean fuck them but hear me out). They gained their legal status as a tax exempt church by bullying the IRS. I mean, who the fuck bullies the IRS? They did it by filing tons of frivolous lawsuits against the IRS and key politicians. Absolutely overwhelming them logistically so to speak.
I'm not saying that particular example is the answer, but it's the type of thinking we need.
And dont underestimate the lack of follow thru once media shows up. It isn't a guarantee that things dont go sideways, but 1. It makes them rethink or at least delay and 2. It creates a record of events that can be used in various ways after the fact such as lawsuits, recruitment, gives insight into capabilities and so on
05 May 2020 03:02
You don't fight a superpower head on. You do what the colonists did and what the Viet Cong did and what the towel heads are doing. You make it to costly for your enemy to continue the fight. Not necessarily in body count, but absolutely in the eyes of their population it must be seen as to costly to keep trying to crush the enemy
All those factors are why I suggested a more targeted response to these types of things. Absolutely understandable everyone wants to shake out at the top of the pile but realistically unless there is a targeted plan, it's hard to get a coherent response
There are a lot of military combat vehicles in LE hands. Most of them were given to them under an Obama era program that auctioned or donated surplus military equipment to domestic LE. It was a big deal like 10 years ago. Now they all just have them and no one says shit about it.
@Deleted User it's a direct threat to a specific person. Wording is very important. Saying "this wouldn't happen if the threat of tar and feathers was still a reality" is going to get them watching you but unable le to do anything. However, saying "when can we tar and feather these specific people?" Is legal grounds for charges.
07 May 2020 19:01
Move to legalise tar and feathering😂 I dont see any reason it should be viewed as a "threat." Done properly, the "victim" is still very much alive with only minimal physical harm. I really would like to see it happen to people in public life as a "gentle" reminder that no one is untouchable