Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 📜member-chat [part 11]

I know I have an issue

or fine anyone, or jail anyone

or close businesses

Agreed

I wish I wasnt

the issue for me is that they should be doing this anyways and i really hate that *not* doing it and being stupid has become a point for "ownin' duh libzz"

like

@Bender you made a fat man smile. You must be food

way to politicize a fucking global pandemic, tards

yeah

my mom is 50s and has COPD and chain smokes, my dad is 50s and has a compromised immune system and is obese and drinks

so like

either of them get it, it's over

and even though i've lost weight i'm still in the threshold for being at risk because of my obesity

those first 4 put him at huge risk, keep him safe man

covid has been observed to damage the lungs, heart, and i believe kidneys

***laughs in 3 hour drive into town***

but yeah thats good

yeah

it certainly isn't a 98% survival rate, but if you are young and healthy with no pre-existing anything and you don't drink or smoke you have good odds but it can still kill you. you aren't invincible

6% lethality in the states rn

muuuch higher in other places

> it certainly isn't a 98% survival rate, but if you are young and healthy with no pre-existing anything and you don't drink or smoke you have good odds but it can still kill you. you aren't invincible @Bender It is tho. Sorry but math dont lie

no it isn't

6% lethality means that 94% recover

you can't have a 6% lethality and a 98% recovery rate, that math doesnt check out

The death rate vs the population as a whole is under .1% These are the facts

you can't have over 100%

and they certainly aren't factoring in those who have died at home

in all reality, we're never really going to be able to compare the true number of deaths until we are able to take the amount of people who died in 2019 and compare it to the amount of people who died in 2020

that will be the only concrete number in the end

The only way to measure lethality is the number of deaths vs the population. We have no idea how many people have the virus. So the only information is total population and total deaths. The numbers simply dont lie. Look them up if you want but I don't need to know that 40k dead in a nation of 320 million is NOT 6%. Or 1%.

it's 80k

Fine. Call it 140k. Still not 1%

ok but we don't compare it to the amount of healthy people for a reason

Shit, even with the worst projections at 2 million, youre still not at 1%

this virus has been around for like 6 months, it's been picking up speed in the US for 2

which, right now, is 6%

https://covid19info.live/ every source these guys use

> ok but we don't compare it to the amount of healthy people for a reason @Bender And that reason is to create panic and confusion in people that don't understand that saying it kills 6% means 6% of the 1 million they have tested. Not a 6% lethality

it kills 6% of people who get it

it has a lethality rate

of 6%

i'm usually an autist and start REEing this far in but ive been trying to be better about that recently

But that number is useless as it is being used to convine people that 6% of every one will die. Language is being perverted. I'm perverting it back. Point still stands. Less than .1% of people will die from covid

no your point doesn't stand at all

neither parts of it

the meaning of what lethality in a disease is does not change based on how it is used

literally this

the literal definition of lethality in a disease is how many people die *who get it*

so if 6% of people *who get it* die

it has a 6% lethality

who gives a shit what they're using it for

that just makes them retarded

it doesnt change the definition of the term

we don't say ebola has a lethality of 50% because it's thanos everyone

Ok. Thats true. And smart people know that. But the way it is being sold by the MSM is using that number and impersise language to say that you have a 6% chance of dying from it. They leave out the part about having it.

we say it has a lethality of 50% because it kills about 50% of people who get it

are you saying that based on evidence you've seen

or are you saying it because you saw someone else say it

because man aside from a few really out-there articles i've yet to see anything like that, and just so you are aware, no i do not get my information on this from the main media outlets

And further I dispute the numbers. Cdc itself adjusted the death count from 60kish to 35kish. That not a small discrepancy

It does not kill 50% of the people who get it

it was an example, gumper

i was talking about the definition of a term, not the disease mentioned in the analogy

Ok

I was about to lose my mind

yeah no no no

ebolas death rate actually kinda varies

it has been as low as 25% and up as high as 90

And lastly, fuck it. It's a virus. Unless we ALL wear level 4 bio suits for the next few years ALL the time, its gonna spread. So let me get a fucking double whopper and sit in the fucking dinning room!😅

was just the first thing that popped into my head so i used it

the thing is, though

No. No thing

Double whopper. Naked now

the whole 'flatten the curve' thing is to prevent the virus from getting so crazy so fast that it overwhelms hospitals like it did in italy, for example

it's not to get rid of it

I do like meatballs

In subs

the point is to make it long and drawn out so that we don't get into situations like italy was in

With lots of sauce and cheese

you'll either have an extremely fast and unpredictable burn, or a slow, manageable one

What are we doing different tho?

masks is huge, and i've seen a lot more people using hand sanitizer and washing their hands

And we have better and mkre hospitals than Italy so

like those two factors alone are p big

"better hospitals" arent going to do jack and/or shit when you have a gigantic flood of people

part of the danger of this virus is the hysteria

why is slowmode on

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

anyways, part of the danger is that when you have a city that gets hit really really hard like New York, you also have a sizeable amount of people who get 2 symptoms and think they have it and rush to the ER. that combined with the influx of *real* patients presents a very serious problem for hospitals

and then you have other things to consider, like ambulances. if you make no effort to flatten the curve and it spreads so fast that thousands of people get it and need ambulances, all of your emergency services are now spread very thin

and deaths from *other* causes will rise too

it's just no good all around, and if you want to play with your health that's absolutely your choice and you should be allowed to make it. but i will also laugh at you for making it

hopefully whatever vaccine they develop, it actually helps to eradicate the virus and we don't get something like the flu vaccine, which only works half of the time(about)

another thing is that this virus seems to mutate pretty easily, i think we have 3 strains already and we're only 6 months in

does *not* bode well

That game always looked so fun

Never played it thoe

Bros if y’all haven’t figured out that this vIrUs is complete bullsht then y’all need to get a clue