Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 📜member-chat [part 16]

@Confused plz do I can’t listen on any VC while camping with the family

"Clo back up server"

Good eyes. Glad y'all were watching out. Fuck ethno states. The only state I wanna be in is a voluntarist state

Cringe

Very well said and thanks for setting the record straight.

Freedom is for everyone

Opsec is key. I have kids. I don't wanna have a firefigth with my 5yr old and pregnant wife at home.

I hear that.

I had to take off because my phone is dying, but I'm glad the situation was taken care of

Amen

Happy memorial day

And I agree. I'd rather not get in am unneeded firefight as well

Dr_acula, were you in Ivan’s group in proton mail?

Cant we all just get along and live freely?

So who been pinging my fat ass I'm eating lol

Oh boy

Oh man you missed a big group call. We are all discussing our favorite colors

Blue is best

Hey admin could I get a Texas role?

Holy shit what the fuck is going on in General

We like talking

yeah I'm here for news and a like-minded community supporting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...not to find out that I've been associated with nazis because some fool supports an ethnostate while I'm offline. Good job yeeting that guy quick.

Like I open this discord to see notifications and just ALL OF YALL ARE IN THERR

Yo while we're all here. Anybody know wtf is going on with ledbetter?

Most of that is down in the Oklahoma general chat

[OK] Text channel would be your best bet

> yeah I'm here for news and a like-minded community supporting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...not to find out that I've been associated with nazis because some fool supports an ethnostate while I'm offline. Good job yeeting that guy quick. @AbysmalWizard

Nazis are antithetical to liberty

Any totalitarian state is

Unfortunately with some folks you can’t fix stupid

What happened to new sons of.liberty that shit fell.off

they were great on paper.

Any idea is great on paper

Except communism

communism is great on paper.

Then the executions start happening to keep the ideals in ace

Place*

Communism is as immoral on paper as it is in reality.

in terms of function, yea

Talking to people that believe in communism do all sorts of mental gymnastics to make it sound like the best idea ever

They do*

Communism is inherently wrong. Restricting the ability of people to choose is the entire idea behind it, there is not a single way it looks good, excluding people looking at it from a skewed perspective. It's requires a hive mind to even function.

it requires*

I'm under the impression that instead of choosing from existing ideologies (most of which have failed in practice) it would be more prudent to develop a new system/model around the world we actually live in today..whereas the creators of every model in use today are dead and gone, remembered in statue form-disconnected from the reality of life in 2020.

Oh Reno is typing

So where do we put pictures of our new "toy"?

You don't.

@AbysmalWizard sounds like a good idea

But it's not a flame thrower

@win get in general vc and mute your mic

I don't claim to have any bold new ideas to contribute, but i think bold new ideas might be important to developing beyond a two-party, 2-system model that seems like such a circus today

are you a commie? a capitalist?

It's not a 2 party system, it's supposed to be a 3

or something new, built on our current reality to make it the best possible

we need something else entirely maybe get rid of partisan politics

We need a renaissance. The issues we're facing are because people have completely forgotten the reason for the social studies. Our scientific advancements have far outpaced our philosophical advancements, both of which are equally important. Philosophy and historical knowledge should be the base of our movement, because they're vital to understanding the movement.

fair enough, @Zone-Tan, its still a matter of choice between people I wouldn't choose to govern even a minecraft server

A representing person from each state should be brought forth after a vote in state for which rep then you go forward with the traditional style of debate

oh

well said grecks

The problem with this obviously is the same as any sports game though with the most people in each state voting for their own state so example being CA vs let's say WY

Sorry had to drop out for family timr,

what has worked in the past? what has failed? what new ideas could be tested?

@[OK] juliet.one.alpha have a good one

The LAW being enforced equally no matter your status

perhaps candidates could be kept anonymous (lol) and we would then vote on the PLATFORM rather than the PERSON

you would have no guarantee there is more than one candidate

Do the black shadow interview

or that your vote is going to any particular candidate

then we vote on ideas alone and have an organization tasked with making the ideas a reality

by the people, for the people

Is it me or did the voice chat go silent?

theres a call still active

enforcement how?

AGI could help us govern impartially and with our best, most moral interests in mind

Do not acknowledge him.

@AbysmalWizard by a revised court and cleaning up of useless laws to make the enforce l enforcement of the law, this case the Constitution, clearer

Don't acknowledge me? What'd I do wrong?

Not you

The guy you were talking to

Had a bad guy name

At the end of the day NAZIS and Comunists are equally as bad

K

A massive overhaul of our courts and law enforcement is absolutely necessary.

Why would they change the system that protects them and keeps them in power and rich ^

Correct, we would need to sweep the laws clean off all the extra stuff added since the last amendment of the constitution. Even then we would need to abolish like 2-4 of them because they are slavery related and I'm sure we can all agree we could move on from that as a whole

pressure from everyone else for the removal of extreme inequity

@TacticalBeard because they have to be overthrown to make them Subject to the constitution

^

We live in a modern day version of history of 🇬🇧

Heaven forbid I use an anime reference here, but our politicians act like the uncrowned kings of the US

redistribute the wealth, allocate a percentage to develop critical reparations and technology

Sounds like communism ^

You can't redistribute because that defeats the purpose of capitalism

should a cap be put on net worth? I dont believe the idea originally was of an america run by a few billionaires

And we have to be mindful of trying to make too many unions or we end up like the EU and right back where we started

I'm not an expert on anything really, let alone the intricacies of modern politics and how to change things

Renaissance? Yes. Anarchist revival.

i like the fantastical idea of robin hood economics but recognize that is it unrealistic

its cuz im poor