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and envious

Incentives. Because if we tax the hell out of the rich they will take their business elsewhere, if we tax the product import they will stop importing because of cost vs people actually buying product at extreme cost

simple redistribution of wealth from the top 1% who lobbied government for more taxation and regulation to siphon it from the rest. Then decentralization. If you want communism, go for it with like minded individuals. Don't force it on the rest. Whatever you want, seek it. I'm more a fan of night watch anarcho-capitalism.

It's a very rough circle of cost and the only reason I'm aware is I drive a semi for a living so I watch the cost of a product first hand go up or down in final shelf cost due to the cost of production

No system can be perfect.

if my math is right

We would have to remove ourselves from the equation for perfection. We're the most flawed element of them all

bezos could personally give every american 250,000 and still have almost 2 billion

There's a very very easy answer but it's a very dark solution many overlook

Anarchy? 😊😊😊

> bezos could personally give every american 250,000 and still have almost 2 billion @AbysmalWizard I don't think those numbers are right, that would cost about 75 trillion dollars

If you have seen End Game, or (even though I don't agree with him) Bill Gates, along with if you decide to go off the extreme deep end to the Georgia Guide Stones to the NWO. There does need to be a decrease in the population of the world

@Tessik more

you're right, i'm way off

but he could give every american 25$ and still have a couple billion left to spare

thats probably what it was lmao i was off by a factor of many tens

i was trying to do all the conversions in my head and royally missed target

Wrong. We have plenty of resources. Statism cannot sustain the human race. And the earth will not last forever. It is something to leave.

The way to redistribute wealth is to take away the endless supply of human bodies they could go through as companies

I agree we need SMI2LE

Space Migration

Intelligence Increase

Life Extension

We have to work towards colonizing other worlds

Space mining when

Increase the value of workers

export the workers to new worlds

Instead of just making each worker disposable

> We have to work towards colonizing other worlds is this even possible

very slowly with current tech

Depending where or tech is actually at

> is this even possible @rider450 It's absolutely possible. Better question is, is it feasible?

need generational seed ships to get to different stars

isnt that the same question

and all our terraforming ideas are untested

we might make some world ending mistakes at first

make mars even worse somehow

The ability is there, but at an absurd cost.

but we learn by trying

Elon may have been right, we should nuke Mars just for the sake of science

im more on the ted kaczynski than star trek side of things

What about the the system that would develop and repeat the cycle of who's in charge of what and the system repeats itself

that's one of the techs i was referencing lol nuke the poles

Got to remember humans are naturally destructive creatures

3000 people on an alien world working together to survive against all the odds and elements

Humans are also incredibly creative

who can tell what system they would create?

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Robert A. Heinlien

the people of the moon (used as a resource pool for earth) gain their independence with the help of a supercomputer and a battle against the homeworld lol

Personalities would clash, trust issues would arise, and so on. It's a survival trait we have to assume the worst case possible for example a rustling in a bush could be the wind or a tiger if you're in the right area so you presume a tiger for your survival in the worst case

Yep

Pinned a message.

Fitting

Humans while amazing are self destructive due to our survival traits that make use assume the worst outcome first

Moose I love you

Yep

That made my day

> need generational seed ships to get to different stars @AbysmalWizard Using conventional propulsion, yes. Better way is bending space-time

expand space behind, contract space in front

bingo bango, you got a warp drive

Which we can do now, albeit in a very small scale

have any links?

100 years ago we had just began to master powered flight give us another 100 years and those vast distances may not be so vast

I wasn't aware we could do it in experiments yet

Not off hand. We've successfully done teleportation.

Yep we have teleported an inanimate object before

Granted, so far only of subatomic patricles. Still

Quantum internet when

I've seen teleportation of electrons or some such subatomic particle, not with an inanimate object like, say, a chair

Need the vacuum of space to limit resistance

We have the ability to bend soace time. Just a matter of perfecting it.

And bending it more. Orders of magnitude more.

isn't it a matter of increasing/decreasing gravitational "fields"?

Why are we talking about teleportation 😂

But isn't that the equivalent of saying, "we have the ability to live forever, we just need to figure out how."? O.o

Through radio waves they figured that time travel is possible just not the way its portrayed by pop culture

I think nuclear matter-antimatter energy would do the trick. But that's a dangerous proposition lol

I'd gladly volunteer to test it.

Sounds like a 1-way trip to death

Holy shit

So hopefully scientists don't destroy the solar system with it lmao

New way to YEET government officials

antimatter can actually be contained reasonably will with VERY strong electromagnetic fields

Teleport them to a random volcano

Just need to figure a way around propelling ourself at high speeds in a vacuum with 0 resistance that doesn't run on modern day fuel

DC can be the first colony on the sun

:akkoShrug:

Yes but I'm talking combining nuclear matter with nuclear antimatter.

@Zone-Tan and garuntees that your craft will not collide with dust at FTL speeds and disintegrate across several solar systems

Which would require the tech of our possibly next big tech leap

Much more kinetic energy. What we dropped on Hiroshima is a small sparkler in comparison lol

ala star trek warp cores

For an idea imagine if in a controlled environment we could split an atom and at the same time control where the energy output goes

And the next leap in human neurological evolution. Unless we want to all die

Brain Machine Interface

Too prone to failure.

If we could put splitting an atom into an "engine room" that could then exhaust that energy into forward momentum which in a vacuum of space the only thing needed next is BRAKES

Biological engineering