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Grand pow-wow. Divisive content subject to deletion.

Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:30

And just like any race car, you always want to ensure your brakes work first

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:31

Reverse thrusters

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

24 May 2020 02:31

If we live forever then the world would be even more far gone than it already is... As far as space brakes go, literally reverse thrusters. Zero vacuum means you need propulsion in the opposite direction to create the opposite reaction..

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:31

In any case; relativity has a flaw

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:31

Speed of light is always subjective. There is no true speed.

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:32

brakes like, solar sails and retroburners

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:32

As it is always measured relative to the source.

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:32

a photon experiences no time or speed/acceleration as it goes point a to point b

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:32

But how do you go about ensuring your reverse thrust if using the same source of power doesn't send you back and possibly into something

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

24 May 2020 02:32

Lots of math..

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:32

every action has an equal and opposite reaction

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:33

Meth or math

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:33

Why not both

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:33

Both are great

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:33

burn the other way with the same force as the vector of acceleration

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:33

If I'm traveling at light speed towards you and you at light speed towards me in space, I could with perfect validity say you are traveling toward me at twice light speed.

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:33

But in a space with 0 fiction to stop you

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:33

play a lot of kerbal space program first

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:33

you dont need friction to slow down

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:33

just force

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:33

So I doubt the speed of light is a valid universal speed limit

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:34

You need a resistance force the opposite reaction to stop you of equal force

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:34

The speed of light is not a constant

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:34

depends on how you look at it

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:34

Nope

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:35

But if you have nothing stopping it it can continue until something stops it

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:35

They measure it every day and its always different

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:35

Light seems awfully slow today

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:35

it was a joke, the speed of light differs based on how you look at it subjectively at different speeds

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:35

No like it seriously isn't a constant

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:36

Lei me find a the video where a guy explains it

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:36

source on speed of light measurement inconsistency?

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:36

If you look at a starthe only reason the light stops is when it's either too far away and consumed by the dark mass of space or the light to your planet stops which means in the distance to your planet it has stopped there but maybe

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:36

> source on speed of light measurement inconsistency? @AbysmalWizard gonna go find the video

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:36

Not to get political, but what's lightspeed today?

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:36

Really fast lol

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:36

i dont think light just stops in a vacuum

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:37

0

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:37

Like trailer park fast or Ferrari fast

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:37

There is no light speed because there is no speed

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:37

Or trailer park Ferrari fast?

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:37

That, too

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:37

what would happen subjectively if all photons stopped moving

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:37

Like say something bad about Hillary and you shot yourself in the back of the head fast

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:38

Wow, so Florida fast

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:38

Gotchu

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:38

80 everywhere

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:38

Lol

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:38

> i dont think light just stops in a vacuum @AbysmalWizard https://youtu.be/JKHUaNAxsTg

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:38

Also depends if you're observing light speed or not. True story

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:39

thanks

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:39

The act of observation changes the equation

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:39

Physics is weird af

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:39

> what would happen subjectively if all photons stopped moving @AbysmalWizard oh you're talking about constant

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:39

The deeper you go, the stranger it gets

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:40

Do you think we'll actually achieve anywhere near lightspeed before our species dies off?

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:40

> @AbysmalWizard oh you're talking about constant @gothicancientalien Nothing is constant. It's all relative

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:40

I think this subject starts to bend our reality if I'm being honest, to travel a distance that light to the edge of our "observable" universe is like 14 billion light-years old

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:40

I'm talking about "the constants" which have to do with astrophysics

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

24 May 2020 02:40

Maybe not lightspeed, but ludicrous speed has a chance....

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:41

What's to say they stay consistent though

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:41

> Do you think we'll actually achieve anywhere near lightspeed before our species dies off? @Tessik No and we never will. We will make it irrelevant.

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Tessik
(id: 131720983282319360)

24 May 2020 02:41

Plaid?

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:41

> Do you think we'll actually achieve anywhere near lightspeed before our species dies off? @Tessik we don't need it. We already have warp tech

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:41

Like trying to figure out how in the universe did conditions work so perfectly to create humans

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:41

what do they use for c (speed of light) in equations if not a constant?

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:42

> what do they use for c (speed of light) in equations if not a constant? @AbysmalWizard https://youtu.be/JKHUaNAxsTg

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[LA]Taxation_is_theft
(id: 711484021221097473)

24 May 2020 02:42

> what do they use for c (speed of light) in equations if not a constant? @AbysmalWizard The relative speed

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:42

listening to it now, he is talking about questioning dogma

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:42

> what do they use for c (speed of light) in equations if not a constant? @AbysmalWizard stop believing what the mainstream tells you and watch the video

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:42

relative to a "stationary" observer?

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:42

But light speed here might require x amount vs what x amount of force would create light speed under completely different conditions

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:44

We legitimately have warp technology. Speed of light is irrelevant to space travel

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:44

> @AbysmalWizard stop believing what the mainstream tells you and watch the video @gothicancientalien I'm asking questions, simultaneous to listening to the video you linked and considering possibilities. Not really trying to have an argument about who owns my mental domain

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The Director
(id: 468575001633751040)

24 May 2020 02:44

Today’s been gggggrreattt

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:44

> @gothicancientalien I'm asking questions, simultaneous to listening to the video you linked and considering possibilities. Not really trying to have an argument about who owns my mental domain @AbysmalWizard I'm not arguing i just have alex jones energy

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:45

I think a big problem in trying to maintain that constant speed is accounting for planets pulls that you might get close to but know nothing about that could effect your overall travel or direction

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:46

Lol Alex jones

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:46

im under the impression that nobody alive today really understands quantum physics, we just see a lot of weird things happen in experiments that contradict what is "known" already

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:46 edited: 2020-05-24T02:46:53.655+00:00

God of the Gaps is what is referred to as

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Rawhide
(id: 300364683167399936)

24 May 2020 02:46

Well, the math is pretty hard for quantum phyics, so that doesn't help

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:47

> im under the impression that nobody alive today really understands quantum physics, we just see a lot of weird things happen in experiments that contradict what is "known" already @AbysmalWizard oh we do know. They aren't telling you. Don't believe them when they tell you its truly that hard to understand quantum physics

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:47

yeah i don't know anything beyond what i'm able to access as a layman, and even that boggles my mind

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:47

So how about those firearms in space then?

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:47

shoot backwards, go forwards

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:48

We going tofigure those out next right so we have star wars for real

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Rawhide
(id: 300364683167399936)

24 May 2020 02:48

Schrodinger's equation isn't analytically solvable for anything more complex than the hydrogen atom

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:48

You can actually shoot yourself I the back of the head if you're orbiting earth

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:48

If you are at a high enough altitude to project against the gravitational pull yes

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:49

I am laughing every time i hear the science shills go BUT HOW CAN THIS BE like dude literally anything can be. The scientists aren't very good

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:49

and shoot in a perfectly straight path following your already established trajectory

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:49

I mean look at the space debris going around earth that hit the Russia satellite years back

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:49

Take ahuayasca and you'll understand all you need to know

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The Director
(id: 468575001633751040)

24 May 2020 02:50

YES

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:50

China almost "accidentally" hit nyc with their falling space junk

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:50

@AbysmalWizard assuming your aim is any good lol, I'd be safe against myself

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gothicancientalien
(id: 611965955093954560)

24 May 2020 02:51

Seriously though. Just take ahuayasca. THAT is true scientific education

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Rawhide
(id: 300364683167399936)

24 May 2020 02:51

Orbital intersections are actually a bit hard to do. Try doing docking on Kerbal Space Program.

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AbysmalWizard
(id: 293250958241169410)

24 May 2020 02:51

10 minutes in he talks about the speed of light dropping

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Zone-Tan
(id: 421786225964482562)

24 May 2020 02:51

I mean i can hit the target, but I'd likely miss myself if going around the earth

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