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> ive never even smoked before it just sounds like it would be a good time @Bender dont do it Dewey! It turns all your bad feelings into good feelings. You don't want no part of this shit man

i really cant though

i live in mormonland and my company *actually* does random drug tests

Ew

As much as I think all drugs should be legal, I respect the rights of companies to drug test

i mean i do too

but i work in an office

what the fuck is gonna go wrong if i start smoking some of that schwag

even if im doing it *while at work* like, the worst that could happen is i forget to schedule something lmfao

my drivers are CDL guys and regularly move boats that weigh 50,000 pounds so like i get them, but 95% of the positions here are relaxed and arent really dangerous

If your working retail idgaf If your messing with machines. No. No hard drugw

Here’s the thing

Weed is hardly a hard drug

@Mountain Man though i'm a little iffy here with drugs tests and if they're okay to do at random or not. people live here in company housing. some dude gets popped and he might become immediately homeless

Weed stays in your system even when you’re not high or whatever. Say you smoke once a week on your day off. That has no affect on your ability to work

So random drug tests are bullshit that should worry about shit like meth or heroin or something actually that’s dangerous

If alcohol tests worked like weed tests, they'd never happen

Geez bender. Yeah that could suck

on top of that, park rangers also live here and god help someone if they find out they're smoking that goodness, because this is all NPS property. they don't need a warrant because it's technically their property

they can just walk right on in

so yeah im not too big on drug tests here. save them for if someone actually fucks up, and use them as a investigational measure

I smoke blunts while working sometimes if I’m there by myself. Only if I’m doing shit that doesn’t require me to be 110% there

I’ll be damned if I get told I can’t smoke weed while there’s dudes drunk at work or drinking at work

Do you live in the past? I thought we got rid of that sort of thing after the Ludlow massacre

Im talking like if heroin or meth are still messing with you.

ludlow massacre?

Never heard of that

Company towns. Federales walking into homesteads. It sounds like a mining town in the 1800s

it's 225 miles from the closest big city, 175 from the closest small town

about 90 miles from the closest town whatsoever, which is fucking tiny

it's got like two paved roads

there is no "their people" guy

What do y'all think about syndicalism. Basically actual Marxism without a central goverment

that sounds like anarcho communism, which makes 0 sense

Saw it on alternate history video

Run by labour unions. It makes some sense. Labour unions run everything.

Who has the ability to use force?

@bootsandboys national park service, because they're federal law enforcement

Labor unions suck dick

and any county cops or staties that wander in here

Heh I was asking about syndicalism. Who has the legal ability to tell people what to do, the unions? And who has the guns, are there syndicalist cops or is it just "the people" who are armed

ah

syndicalism kinda seems like commie shit with like one less step imo

> Heh I was asking about syndicalism. Who has the legal ability to tell people what to do, the unions? And who has the guns, are there syndicalist cops or is it just "the people" who are armed @bootsandboys dunno. Id say every major industry is run by smallwr unions at plants. Region. National. Etc. Military is there. Just tossing the idea out

how can there be a military without a government

so basically ancoms but they want to be special?

er, more *special*

I somehow got parmesan on my ass

Whay the fuck

Also no delay in messahes?

ancom is a stupid fucking ideology. you can't take an ideology that revolves entirely around a lack of government and then combine it with one that requires an extreme, overbearing government

My question is meant to poke holes in commie ideas. The use of coercive force is where a lot of anarchist/communist-adjacent philosophies fall apart when humans inevitably don't do what you want them to do

it doesnt fucking work

ancoms aren't anarchists

Might be getting arrested for weed?

what

I don't even smoke weed in my car and this dps lady just said she smelt weed

That's the 4th amendment loophole. You getting pulled over?

@Potatoes O'Reilly I don't quite understand how they think that would work the way they think it would

yeah don't say shit without a lawyer

Well if NAP is violated Ancaps would generally believe that they would have the right to defend themselves. Reactionary force is considered legitimate in such an ideology.

"i'm not answering questions about my day, am i being detained" if they have an actual reason for detaining you, shut the fuck up and say nothing @Cobra Komando

basically even if there's the NAP it doesn't negate the one rule of life

stay strapped or get clapped

it's Shut The Fuck Up Friday

NAP is just an ethical stance that Ancaps generally accept

like I agree with it

I told the bitch I smoke weed and I don't got any and she let me go

Made me sign a warning for driving with no reg

Ancaps get strawmanned a lot

I'm much more okay with them then I am with ancoms

No search

but I'm not such a fan of the potential for corporate states to rise

Even if she would have she wouldn't have found shit

Guess I'm charming

yeah

Corporatism already exists

yes

but not completely overt

Corporatism and Statism are intertwined

yes they are

states are corporations

and some corporations are states

Merchantism. Like the dutch east indies company. Or the british india company. Corporations can be worse than goverments

yeah

If corpo has that much influence then they are de facto state

@Bender I heard National Park Service, so I came as fast as I could

also ancap requires some form of sort of official currency

Nah

Barter exists

Common means of exchange would be found

Wether that be gold or hydrogen

Or crypto

Or something else

Corporations always become monopolies

It has occured. And needs some regulation to keep it from happening

Monopolies can only exist due to the state

Via regulations and lobbying

Need some form of gov to keep the corporations in check.