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Your mother is *two* words

Then let me ask what do you want then?

anarchism, communism, fascism, are all extreme ideologies

Ha, gottem

Your mother is an extreme ideology

i want a small government like our founding fathers intended. i want 20% of my paycheck to stop poofing into nothingness. i want to be able to buy whatever the fuck i want and do whatever the fuck i want and not be harassed as long as i'm not hurting anyone

I agree with that but hurting anyone is subjective because I should absolutely be allowed to beat racists and communists

"hurting anyone" is not subjective

are you causing physical harm, or extreme mental/psychological harm to another human being or animal?

that is not a subjective definition

See, but commies aren't people they are property of the state, and racists don't get rights

shut the fuck up dude

we're having a serious discussion here

We need small decentralized government. With a non federal, non aggressing police force, and as few laws as possible. We need peacekeepers to keep people like cannibal from beating others, and to string up pedos and murderers

What I actually mean is that if the nation plunged into anarchy, it’s more than likely both I and my friends/loved ones would be fine. Better off even. I’m more than capable of growing and hunting my own food as well as defending myself, and the majority of my problems come from the government fucking me over. But just because I’d do fine does not in any way mean it would be better for the country

From beating racists and commies, I see

so you'd beat people for committing wrongthink

Yeah, being assholes and idiots

unless those racists and commies are going out and physically hurting other people because of their beliefs, that's exactly what you're doing. hurting them for wrongthink

Everyone gets a trial. Everyone gets punished as the law sees fit. We do not beat people, we do not lynch people. This is what separates us from animals.

get the fuck out of the liberty movement then, retard.

you clearly aren't about liberty

@Potatoes O'Reilly you believe it’s feasible for yourself, but recognize that it would be disastrous for the majority of people

No political or economic system is going to last more than a couple hundred years in it's original form

thats not what we're talking about don't change the subject

we're talking about you wanting to physically harm other people because they believe things you don't like.

that's the topic, stay on it

If me wanting to beat racists and commies is bad then what is wanting to topple an authroitarian regime

there is a difference between people thinking dumb, ass-backwards things and an actual authoritarian regime

one of them is nothing more than wrongthink, the other is an *actual authoritarian regime*

Yeah, that^

make fun of their stupid beliefs all you want, but you become no better than them if you resort to physical violence

Okay, so racists are allowed to be racists but I'm not allowed to want to bring harm to them

no, you aren't. not unless they are physically harming other people

Unless they do something that hurts others, you can't beat anyone.

Having prejudice is one thing

Acting on it is another

like dude, if some racist jackwagon starts burning crosses on peoples yards yeah fucking go for it

Thoughts aren’t crimes

but if they haven't started being actually *violent* then you're being an authoritarian shithead

*maximum* civil liberties, even if people do really dumb shit with those liberties

are you still doing fucked up shit to people

It’s me

That’s me too

@Potatoes O'Reilly have you made an attempt to right your past transgressions

i don't see any issue as long as you arent fucking with anyone anymore. live and learn

Moral question There are good and bad people with a sprinkling of grey in the middle

thats a terrifying statement

and you see yourself as part of the LIBERTY movement?

> Looking at others as human beings makes life a lot more difficult @Potatoes O'Reilly

don't try to edit it

Bender, maybe he's referencing having to do some dark shit to save himself at some point in his past, have a little respect

Are you a vet @Potatoes O'Reilly

Ah ok

You don't have to have served to have done unsavory things

how could that *possibly*

be a reference to some shit from his past

Idk I have vet buddies that talk like that sometimes

not viewing others as human beings opens the door mentally to doing all sorts of horrible shit to people

They’re not right in the head

They see psychologists though

Judging someone for something they did in a stressful or very truamatic enviroment doesn't help them

i dont judge him if he ever had to do some crazy shit, im judging him for that statement in particular

You'll find that often times dehumanizing people will make doing a lot of life saving jobs easier

it's almost like that's an extreme job that requires you to train yourself mentally for, or something

it may make life saving jobs easier but it also makes the other end of that spectrum much easier

Duh

have some basic compassion for everyone else, it'll do you some good

No mental prep prepares you for many of the things you will see, hear, and experience

why are you just throwing random shit out there like it's an argument

you're arguing shit that isn't even kinda close to the point

So turns out lady dps cop gives me a warning and I continue on my journey to find my wife and end up backing into a ditch and having some 70 year old guy pull me out and rip half my bumper off

Epic

Just to find that my wife is going to Oklahoma to see her sister and get away from me when she's the bad one

jesus fuck dude

And here I am cryn like a bitch

yeah

Fuck this shit man

Do you know what it's like to have someone you not only know but care for get not just taken from this world but slowly snuffed out infront of you after being nothing but a good person their entire life

Women are fucked up

nah you're not being a bitch. that's a natural human reaction to having your heart ripped out of your chest

Yeah that's exactly what is happening

women will cause you pain like nothing else man. you know everyone is here to talk if you need. my DMs are always open

Idk she's driving me to the point where I'm ready to just blop I'm not abusive

don't

i know that anger, it's never worth it.

you won't feel any better, and her problems will be over because she'll have all the sympathy she'll ever need and yours will just be starting

I left a middle class Minnesota life to be with an impoverished east TX girl and gave up everything

get revenge on her by living better then she does

it will such massive cocks at first, my heart goes out to you brother

but the sweetest revenge is getting to see somebody crash and burn

Dude that's the problem I deal with her life better than she does

so?

then stop dealing with her life

^ 1000% this

let her deal with her own problems since she wants to go off and be on her own. that shit is no longer your problem

aye, sounds like she's just leaching off you man

It's not that simple

how so

I've been here for 4 years taking care of kids