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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

01 May 2020 23:16

When we have people who want to associate with us but clearly are just not the the people who need to be with us

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

01 May 2020 23:17

That’s actually not horribly outside the realm of possibilities.

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

01 May 2020 23:17

How do we ensure we distance ourselves and let people who don’t know us see that.

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Melmanreks
(id: 705742915829366804)

01 May 2020 23:44

Yoooooo

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

02 May 2020 00:15

Yesssss @Melmanreks

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 01:25

There needs to be a defined purpose since people clearly aren't following the NAP

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 01:40

I morally believe in the NAP and follow it strictly. If you voted for a democrat or a republican, you have violated the NAP. If you are a LEO, and I have not violently attacked someone in plain sight of you, and you contact me, you have violated the NAP.

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AR
(id: 372196371048169474)

02 May 2020 02:17

So you don't even believe in arrest warrants?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 02:31

Not really tbh

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KaiBran
(id: 571487267038691331)

02 May 2020 12:30

What is the NAP

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 12:48

NAP is the Non-agression-principle. Wikipedia will explain it better than I can. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

02 May 2020 17:46

I do not believe in the NAP resolutely. There are times where Preemptive or First Strike is an absolute necessity.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 17:47

That’s not inherently a violation of the NAP

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 17:47

The NAP doesn’t mean you have to wait for someone to beat the shit out of yoj before you use force, you know what I’m saying?

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

02 May 2020 19:05

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

02 May 2020 19:06

I saw some people.using the old flyer on FB earlier to inform people on the various posts about Texas, etc. And it was poorly received, due to c*v*l w*r language and other inflammatory stuff. Try this out, see what people say

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Chidori
(id: 648025995089281030)

02 May 2020 19:08

Got you brother

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

02 May 2020 19:08

I keep reposting so our new members get a chance to make suggestions, not to be annoying. This flyer should attempt to reach the broadest demographic possible while remaining true to the core principles of Minecraft

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

02 May 2020 19:08

Thanks king

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[MI] LawlessHawk
(id: 705975254513614920)

02 May 2020 20:20

Would anybody be interested in an instructional vidoe style meeting, to share information, life skills, bush craft?

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[MI] LawlessHawk
(id: 705975254513614920)

02 May 2020 20:20

Led by some kind of instructor or professional so we can share our skills.

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 21:17

I received a flyer at a protest today.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

02 May 2020 21:20

The one you posted in the main chat? @Catman

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 21:23

No this was a custom one

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716tdi
(id: 648033658439204901)

02 May 2020 21:34

This is the way to resolve the divide: https://youtu.be/pOAiyogY_6E

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

02 May 2020 21:34 edited: 2020-05-02T21:36:54.326+00:00

@Mr. Kurtz Read through it myself. Seems They took the original and just added some of their own graphics. Not a criticism, just an observation

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Chidori
(id: 648025995089281030)

02 May 2020 22:02

That’s nice tho we want that if each group keeps the values of our movement then they can customize it to their own demographic

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

02 May 2020 22:06

Agreed. That was the ice breaker with them, discussing the fact that I had seen several versions of the same thing.

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

02 May 2020 22:12

So at what Point do we start showing up at people houses?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 22:36

What exactly do you mean?

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

02 May 2020 22:41

Not any time soon hopefully @Copbot1001

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

02 May 2020 22:41

I would hope so too

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

02 May 2020 22:42

Seems like a point of no return

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

02 May 2020 22:42

It absolutely is

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

02 May 2020 22:42

Which is why we all need to work together, to try to NOT hit thay

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 22:56

This was being distributed by other people at the rally. I was really surprised they were already being printed

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 22:57

I’ve noticed we get most of our support from conservatives or independents with a farther right attitude

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 22:58

I think our biggest ally in gaining support from the other side is claiming ICE as one of our main issues. ICE has been tearing families apart and we can get a a lot more support

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 22:59

^^^^^

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 22:59

They're the only demographic naturally funneled in by shitposting about killing feds in firearms groups.

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:00

ICE is a good target. Prison reform, too.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:00

strong agree

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:01

especially because ICE is an agency that very purposefully skirts the edges of the constitution and abuses the shit out of their 'authority'

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:01

Got to speak about it the way libs and leftists do though. A huge barrier with them is the signalling mechanisms you use to articulate your protests. Lot of internicene feuds there.

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:02

Mostly among leftists

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 23:02

Also, the USDA destroying food is another bad thing to pay attention to.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 23:02

That can lead to *many* families’ suffering.

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:03

I agree completely. I hate to say it but we may need to start having some protests without kit or firearms. Liberals see us that way and our message goes right over their head

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:03

We got any good sourcing on the mechanics of that, @[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ ?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 23:04

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:04

@Pat.Henry Im not sure that protesting *with* these other groups would be to our benefit. But cooridnating with them so that rather than clashing with each other, both groups are occupying the police and completely overwhelm them

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:06

@Crye Salesman I don’t want to protest with them but to have a cause they sympathize with would help us gain support from people on that side of the spectrum. We want people’s support! Not the parties

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:07

strongly agree

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:07

I love that idea with the USDA! People need food in these times. No reason we should be destroying the surplus amount

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:07 edited: 2020-05-02T23:08:39.219+00:00

I don't get the fixation on protesting. Gives you PR, makes a lot of noise. Rarely results in any change not already in the establishment's mind. Easily results in crackdowns Civil disobedience with an explicit goal is good, though. That salon, for instance. Ideas like Patrick Connelly's farmer outreach idea builds power, and cultural authority.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 23:10

The big thing is community service.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 23:10

We need to provide good services for communities and for the people.

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:10

I personally agree. It seems that protesting gets nothing done (For example Virginia’s turnout protesting fine rights) but I see it as a way to get our message out and try and gain support

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:10

Exactly. Show that we are for the people

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 23:10

I 99% believe that the Dallas Salon deal is going to get us major support that we need.

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:10

*gun rights

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:11

We need some more of that and I think we will start to see a lot more of it

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

02 May 2020 23:12

We need to endorse good actions, and flame bad actions.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:13

we discussed in voice chat last night that there is some basis in america that follows a path of vote>protest peacefully>civil disobedience>protest angrily>militant action and most people feel some moral obligation to declare and demonstrate their grievances and give the govt opportunity to respond

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:13

Skipping steps makes it easier to call us “extremists”

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:14

yep. and it makes it very clear who has no real interest in their civil liberties when they make fun of people for following that precedence of events

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:14

Va was good shit, but it's a double-edged sword. Without control over MSM messaging, a very strong portion of the population just sees a bunch of wannabe soldiers playing dress up. No real connection to the gun-owning demographic or protestors.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:15

Concur, although the distrust in MSM is growing exponentially. I dont know anyone my age who thinks CNN, Fox, MSNBC are anything more than memes, and even my conservative, sheltered family is able to see the blatant hypocrisy and bias

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:16

100%

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:16

The real threat is written publications.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:17

There are also online publications that segments of the population still take seriously, both in text and video content

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:17

NYT, wappo et all are still papers of record for much of the educated public, even though they've been weapons of the status quo for over a decade

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:18

Ye

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:19

Although those "actual" newspapers ^ still, at least sometimes, actually commit journalism, which could actually help us

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:19

But my main point is with the pamphlet that’s been passed around. Maybe we should highlight our anger towards ICE specifically to at least grab attention from a different demographic

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:19

HuffPost will do nothing but call us extremists, a good journalist at the NYT might give us a fair shake and at least an actual examination for our values

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:21

i agree @Pat.Henry , i think publicly throwing our support, both verbally and on the streets, behind anti-ICE people, and *sigh* BLM could produce a huge shift in public opinion, at least in the younger generations

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:23

I think you vastly overestimate the NYT, unfortunately. As much as they've done great work, they're functionally a tool of the democratic party apparatus (see their biden molestation tweet)

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:23

100% @Crye Salesman

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:23

BLM dead tho, it seems

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:23

Gotta find its descendants, and identify groups we can work with

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PetroleumCanary
(id: 704459060161937418)

02 May 2020 23:24

Identifying 'potential friendly' publications also a good idea

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 23:24

I really like armedequality on Instagram. Not at all BLM but very pro-gun

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:24

Ah i didnt necessarily BLM as an actual organization, but rather the other demographics that feel abused by the police

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:25

youre probably right about NYT, but you get my drift overall, finding *any* media outlet that would give us an actual bit of journalism could very helpful

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:26

@Crye Salesman I don’t think we should side with them but it isn’t a secret that we hate the government. ICE is just another department in the government. We’re really just restating that fact but directing it at a certain department. I see what you mean though. It could cause a small rift

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:28

Its a fine line to tread, because groups like BLM have also socially attacked innocent people because they shot it out with someone of a different race. but really letting people know our only concern is ensuring all people are free from abuses of 'authority' and demonstrating that support and sense of community could be paradigm changing

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 23:30

It is also a way to talk with them about their goals because this community has also attacked people that it didn't agree with. Look at the posts from people commenting on the CO guy page

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:31

oh for sure, elements of this community are very toxic

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 23:32 edited: 2020-05-02T23:33:06.614+00:00

As I imagine BLM faces the same problem

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 May 2020 23:33

definitely

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

02 May 2020 23:35

It would be fun to get to know other groups

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Pat.Henry
(id: 704508330638311455)

02 May 2020 23:56

It’ll help build support as well. Every group has toxic members and sadly those few normally define the group

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

02 May 2020 23:57

yeah, it's a really fine line between respecting your group members freedom to express themselves and culling shitty members from your group.

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

03 May 2020 01:13

So we do actually have a PR group that is working on developing a podcast that is very much geared towards introducing our movement and softening our image. Once its up and running, getting the word of its existence out will be a big thing. We're still in developing stages but working hard and as soon as we're up whoever you can share it with would be awsome.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

03 May 2020 01:14

If anyone needs an invite, PM me.

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Chidori
(id: 648025995089281030)

03 May 2020 01:17 edited: 2020-05-03T01:18:02.089+00:00

Also in regards to anyone in Any other group what we could do as an organization and a movement is recognize their leaders contact them with representatives and speak to them about our similar motives and their followers being unnecessarily violent and how to stop it if they disagree which I’m assuming they would be against unnecessary violence at least the ones who are really invested in it

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

03 May 2020 01:24

Agreed. So if you know anybody involved in any sort of movement that is even leaning anti-gov, get in touch and let them know about us. A huge part of our purpose is outreach and you just never know who might be open to our message

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

03 May 2020 02:05

Everyone to VC. Updates from Chevy coming in

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

03 May 2020 06:36

Years back i knew an Oklahoma militia that did volunteer disaster relief. Tornadoes trash a city? They organized to help. Showing people we give a damn is huge.

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