07 May 2020 20:07
@Deleted User let me talk to the wife. No point in having you go tho the trouble, me spending the money if she has a problem with it. I'm sure that played a big part in the sales issue😂I'm sure not every mom would be stocked on a "Fuck your badge" shirt on a 3yo. But good to know. I'll get back to you
Agreed. Unfortunately this is an expression of contempt and it's always going to be a problem countering those who, lets be honest, view us as Nazis and are only going to use those images that prove their point. They arent looking to be persuades or informed, theyve made up their mind already
We can only really influence those who have an interest in finding the truth
Then our job is to be more persuasive. And make our points without needed to defame the other side. That's just calling them names and the people looking for the truth will see it as two sides niether of which is saying anything close tonthe truth just beating eachother up
Take a trump-esk approach to it. " but what about the people who say your Nazis for not believing xyz"
Answer : what about them? What exactly is it that they believe, besides that we're nazis for not buying what they're selling?"
08 May 2020 17:16
That is the best diversity, the only one that really matters but we will always face the problem of "your all just angry white men" label unless and until we can demonstrate the popular ideal of "racial" diversity
And I dont believe we should be going for the tokenism that so many movements fall into. But I firmly believe that our values are shared by more people, of all kinds, than not. I just think alot of people are 1. Uninformed either intentionally or as a productbof nurture/nature and 2. Afraid of going against what is presented by the MSM as the prevailing wisdom or popular opinion.
It's human nature to not wabtvto make waves. The people who do get noticed, and those who are noticed are the ones with little red dots on their foreheads. Its always easier to go along go get along.
Yeah so despite me being 110% behimd it, she is..... Less than thrilled. I see her point and again, if I were the one dressing them, hell yeah but looks like daddy lost another one. Ain't gonna stop me from ordering mine tho. And I might even get her one lol
10 May 2020 19:00
Now you guys are getting it...I have been saying it for years...can't put a label or symbol on it. It will get vilified and discredited...make it an ideal. Ideals lead to legacy... and that is really what we are after. That is why 250 years later, we are willing to once again water the tree...
In Canada the political street fighting is mainly between the Patriot Movement which basically non marxist/syndicalist anarchists, AnCaps, Libertarians, classical liberals and conservatives versus the revolutionary communist party, antifa, public sector unions, steel workers union, IWW union, Liberals, NDP and Greens, anarcho syndicalists and what I call marxist anarchists. Been raging about 5 years or more now I have probably been in over a dozen street brawls at rallies between a couple hundred. We once had a running fight between us and antifa that went like 6 blocks and into the Eaton's Centre Mall we were probably outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1 and still beat their asses good
So I can't help but feel that this article was written by an actual journalist and then completely re-written by either a government agency or some seriously biased group of, for lack of a better word, bootlickers. Every fact is bookended by just obvious lies or attempts at justifications. Its nothing if not another sad demonstration that every MSM work is little more than an attempt at dispelling the publics potential interest in exposing government's wrongdoing.
I'm going to take this on a route many of you may not like. The 2A support is good and moral but ultimately I believe the wrong hill to die on. The overall goal of this group has been concern about government over reach with no measurable reasonable. UN Article 12 states "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks." In accordance to issues such as the Patriot Act and other acts to track citizens standing against the government makes this movement a human rights movement. In the Preamble of the Declaration of Human rights "Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law". Would declaring the UN should intervene as a result of human rights violations be over the top?
America is social dead, politically rotten, and altogether a dead memory held alive by us. Asking for help is something we cannot do and reveal to the world what little holds us together. Our oppressors loosely protect us from other oppressors like a mafia, we do not rule ourselves. That is why total collapse would be a red dawn disaster.
12 May 2020 04:12
This gives the movement legitimacy. I agree about the UN being useless and the government rotten but by declaring that we are holding the government accountable for human rights activation we show that war is not what we want. The government is illegally conducting laws and should be held accountable for their actions. Media and government spin against whistle blower agencies is huge and that can be used to deflect some of the fools that will try and paint the movement otherwise
@Catman so after several drafts of response to your question, I can best respond this way(please forgive the "crudeness") in America, we cant run to another nation or the UN to resolve our problems. We got ourselves into this shit pile, and getting out of it is only truly possible if we grab our shovels and dig ourselves out. No solution facilitated by an outside force will be acceptable. I believe if we wish to return to any sort of America that may have been, it is only the people of america who can do it. This is the country people flee to and beg for assistance. If we become the ones who flee, the ones who beg for "international" intervention, a huge part of the american spirit will be forever dead
Lawmen have fought, some win some lose, to contest the government's constant infringements, but they see it as just a game. They need to not only fear but respect us, and know that their wreckless game has consequences. They don't give us anything we don't already INNATELY have
12 May 2020 04:31
I think human rights and Liberty are interchangeable. But the term human rights, to me, implies a finite list. It, again to me, places the burden of proving a right when I feel Liberty places the government, rightly on the spot to explain and convince people that what they are doing is acceptable. Perhaps it just semantics, and most definitely I am not expressing myself as well as I would like, but the word "human rights" just doesnt fit. Also, as weve seen throughout history, one favorite tactic of governments is to dehumanize the enemy. They do that and we have lost the human rights angle
12 May 2020 04:35
Speaking of semantics, there's a huge difference in what is labeled as human rights,vs God given rights. Frederick Nietzsche proclaimed western society lost when he said "God is dead." God represents here the cornerstone or founding, like the founding fathers. The founding of this country was in its liberties given to us naturally, not as or by others. Humanity is earned, rights are claimed.
By all means use whatever talking points you find colloquial to you
That was what got me started. And Also the desire to layout a format that anyone can use to prepare themselves for questions that can leave anyone fumbling for an answer. I hope it can help someone make a breakthrough to those Normies😂
Self education is the most important. I.E. rights granted us by the constitution, vs. rights are outlined in the constitution to restrict government infringement. Rights are inherent, constitution or not.