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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 2]

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culperOrion
(id: 704551894647046144)

30 Apr 2020 22:01

Greetings. Anyone running highcom 4s17 plates? Looking at shellback carrier with their iv 4s17 plates.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:01

No, my plates are garbage and I have only had experience with ESAPIs

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

30 Apr 2020 22:02

No I don’t run plates

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:02

I think highcom is supposed to be good, they’re NIJ listed yeah? Shellback is okay for entry-level stuff

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culperOrion
(id: 704551894647046144)

30 Apr 2020 22:02

Yeah NIJ listed

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culperOrion
(id: 704551894647046144)

30 Apr 2020 22:03

They've got some decent kits for around $400 right now with no lead times.

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culperOrion
(id: 704551894647046144)

30 Apr 2020 22:03

Decent-looking*

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:04

So long as they aren't steel and they're rated, why not?

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culperOrion
(id: 704551894647046144)

30 Apr 2020 22:04

Yeah.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:04

Yeah, those look fine, although single curves will be annoying after a while

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culperOrion
(id: 704551894647046144)

30 Apr 2020 22:05

I'm not easily annoyed. Willing to give it a shot.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:05

Meaning, they don’t conceal as well, and will hurt your shit a little faster than multi-curve. Not the end of the world, just something to consider

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

30 Apr 2020 22:09

Pros and cons of running a thermal optic vs a standard one

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:09

Pros, you can see more shit in the dark. Cons, You can't see color and it can eventually start to mess with your eyes, and depth perception is pretty meh.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:11

Also, batteries. you're depending on them to even be able to use your optic. Same can be said with some red dots too, but there's options out there that don't require batteries at all, or they at least last a while.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:13

Really, it depends on your mission and if you can get steady resupply.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:14

Thermal optics have lag

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:14

Can’t see through glass

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:14

Poor eye relief

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Red [neck] tech
(id: 343208983303028737)

30 Apr 2020 22:15

Sparrow my baseline for a red dot is 150 to 200 minimum anything less is a range toy and not to be trusted

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:16

Unless you’re just like, hog hunting, I would go thermal spotter and then regular optic with analog NV on your gun

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:16

Or run fusion on your lid and a laser on your gun

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:17

I wouldn't use a thermal as a main optic personally. Not unless it's just for hunting, and night time. Great for spotting, that really all I'd want one for though.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:19

I mean thermals are dope, but I use them for observation and identification, not as an aiming device

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

30 Apr 2020 22:19

Okay, weapon mounted thermal for spotting or seperate device?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:20

Separate device unless you have a dedicated thermal rifle like serious hog hunters

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:20

^

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:20

That would be my recommendation.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:20

Hell, depending on how heavy you want that thing to be, you could put the thermal on an offset mount for spotting and then adjust from there. But that'd be unweildy.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:21

Uhhhh

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:21

I mean I *guess* you could rig a FLIR breaxh lije that

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:21

Yeah... that's a possibility....

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:22

Sounds very call of duty lmao

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:22

Hahaha, screw it. Buy a Reap IR

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

30 Apr 2020 22:23

With all that said, any reccomendations for thermal spotting scopes?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:23 edited: 2020-04-30T22:23:42.663+00:00

Bruh for that money you could get a pvs14 and a ecoti

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:23

Hahaha, I know. The Reap IR thing was a joke.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:24

That's for them rich boys.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:25

Just grab your PAS-28, throw it on the tripod on top of your spotting scope, hook it into your tough book, grab a 152, snag a satcom slot and stream it to the COC, it’s not that hard guys

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

30 Apr 2020 22:25

If I knew what anything in that sentence meant I might have gotten the joke

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:26

Sorry haha

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:26

If I wanted thermals I would snag a used FLIR breach or PTS22something

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:27

Lmao, hahaha. Yeah, sorry.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:27

Used Leopold LTO is very afforabdle for a having thermal capabilities

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:27

Not great res and range tho

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

30 Apr 2020 22:29

As an ambi shooter I considered running a standard weapon sight and a thermal monocular on my "off eye" for spotting and aiming

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:30

That’s a possibility

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:30

Oh you could do that if you wanted. But the real problem comes in then on... how are you gonna aim?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 22:30

Or are you planning on using thermals in day time?

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

30 Apr 2020 22:36

Anyone need budget vests?

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

30 Apr 2020 22:37

Using my off eye with the thermal to spot and using my other eye to aim the rifle

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

30 Apr 2020 22:52

Just put in the Geissele SSA-E trigger and the LWRC skirmish sights (BUIS)

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

30 Apr 2020 22:52

And I’m in love

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 22:56

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 22:57

Very respectable to both of you

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:04

I wouldn't trust a wish vest...

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Wizzkidd56
(id: 444347007298043906)

30 Apr 2020 23:04

Posted this on the fb a while back but

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:06

@Deleted User People who would trust that are why i believe while heartedly in Darwinism

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

30 Apr 2020 23:07

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:10

I tried out the flat CMC trigger, and that thing is beautiful.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

30 Apr 2020 23:11

I like the ledge CMC does on the bottom, gives you a really consistent finger placement

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:11

Oh yeah, for sure. It's nice, I have it on my 20" build currently.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:12

But if I get a recce upper, I'm going to just use that lower. It's an Aero lower, so I don't have any issues with it.

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XxWARGASMxX
(id: 705560334315814932)

30 Apr 2020 23:31

@Sparrow I just got one of those. Waiting for my lower to throw it into

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

30 Apr 2020 23:35

> I wouldn't trust a wish vest... @Deleted User That was a joke lol

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:35

@Abe Clark oh thank God

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

30 Apr 2020 23:35

I’m not that dense lol

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

30 Apr 2020 23:36

I just popped up on my notifications lmao and I was like well that’s fucking stupid

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Steve Sears(OhZ2)
(id: 313769577383198730)

30 Apr 2020 23:36

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Steve Sears(OhZ2)
(id: 313769577383198730)

30 Apr 2020 23:36

7.62x39

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Steve Sears(OhZ2)
(id: 313769577383198730)

30 Apr 2020 23:37

And my first paint job

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

30 Apr 2020 23:39

Looks damn good

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:44

Good looking weapon, and I applaud the paint job. It blends nicely, and it's not stupid bright

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:44

Needs more rainbows and unicorns.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:44

My only comment is uh... ewwww 7.62? You heathen!

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:45

Decent round, but that poor AR D;

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:46

Jokes aside you did a great job.

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:48

I love my 7.62 ARs. Nice paint job bud!

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:49

@XxWARGASMxX Yeah, the CMC trigger is great. Awesome for fast or accurate firing as the pull and reset is super short. With how light it is though, I don't know if it's what I'd use on a field gun. But who knows, I'll do some tests to see how it takes drops.

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:52

I wish Amazon sold jigs

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:53

I wish amazon sold everything

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:53

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:53 edited: 2020-04-30T23:53:52.59+00:00

Oh how fun. I really like the looks of the P80 G17s

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:54

I’ve done at least 4 g17s

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:54

I love em.

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:54

You can finish with just a Dremel and drill, right?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:54

Oh... you make some American?

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:54

Yep

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:54

P80s seem easy

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:55

They are.

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:55

Just have a steady hand

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:55

Oh... Lol

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:55

I'm not asking you to build me one... but, say if you're looking to sell one, I might be interested.

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:56

These are AR15 jigs though lol

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:57

I can serialize one and sell it too you

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:57

Unfortunately I'd have no way of knowing if my 80% lowers are in spec or not.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:57

You do AR 80's too?

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

30 Apr 2020 23:57

I do.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

30 Apr 2020 23:57

Okay, yeah. American, I think I'm interested in looking at one from you.

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

30 Apr 2020 23:58

Still gotta FFL it unless you guys are close.

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