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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 2]

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:02

Ahaeglock

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

01 May 2020 15:03

no stop it ^

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:03

UwU don't touch me there senpai

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

01 May 2020 15:04

Ahaeglock tho

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

01 May 2020 15:04

Why

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

01 May 2020 15:04

Just why

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:05

I'll put anime stickers on it.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:05

And paint the trigger a fleshy pink

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:05

Not really, I hate that shit.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:06

I hate it too but it’s the most memeable handgun ever

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:06

Yeah, well... the only reason I would wanna do it is because I consider the glock my field gun. Something I don't mind taking outside and getting knocked around.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:07

I love my TP9SFX, it's my baby and I save it for competition shooting. And the P320 is cool.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:07

But the glock... it works, I know it's tough, and I'm okay if it gets a little roughed up. It has a good track record.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:10

Darkstar gear

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:12

I'll check them out

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:14

Wait, do they only do IWBs?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:18

There's no reason to have owb unless it's required for your job

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:20

Yeah, I'm talking for field use as in... I'm gonna be armed-armed. I already have a EDC

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:20

Ahh okay. Really safariland seems to be everyone's go to for duty holsters

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:20

I'd probably suggest als with a hood

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:21

Yeah, I've noticed. Though I'm looking at We The People Holsters right now... it's definitely cheaper. And more open, I personally hate multiple-level retention holsters.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:21

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

01 May 2020 15:22

Gucci glocks are stupid as fuck. But I love em.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:22

Agreed American. Why spend all that money on a mediocre pistol to make it good. When you can just get a good pistol. Hahaha

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:22

But I'd be lying if I said I don't think they look and feel good.

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

01 May 2020 15:24

I have a couple “Gucci” guns. I find them Absurd, but will always have em 😂

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

01 May 2020 15:25

I have to talk myself out of buying a yeet cannon every time I see one. Like. I want it as a novelty. 😂❤️

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:26

Hahaha, I get it. Same reason I'd get a 1911, I'd never actually use one. But it'd be a fun showpiece

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:27

Poor quality kydex, bad retention, weak hardware, and no customer support

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:27

Also lol is that internet explorer?

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:31

I want a Gucci Scar and it hurts my heart that they’re so fucking expensive

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:32

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/fbi-agent-accidentally-shoots-bar-patron-gun-falls/story?id=55614488 This is why retention is important. Are you going to be doing backflips? No, probably not. You may be running, jumping, crawling, sliding, or doing any number of activities that could cause a pistol to fall out though. With the ALS, the pistol is held into place until you grab it, and your thumb naturally hits the release lever. It's like what serpa wanted to be if it was actually good.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:34

Honestly non-retention holster are dumb as fuck imo

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:35

I mean I could MAYBE see them in competition shooting if like draw speed is THAT important but still, it’s unnecessary

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:35

But I don’t shoot much so

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:35

What do I know

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:37

Typically for concealed carry or some completions you want a level one retention holster. Open carry you want level 3.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:37

I genuinely don’t even know the difference

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:38

1 is friction, 2 is manual operated, 3 is both combined, and apparently there's 4 but idk what it is other than it's not recommended for civilian use

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:39

Not recommended? That’s weird

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:40

Manual I guess would be like a finger trigger yeah?

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 15:40

Oh like the button on the thumb

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:40

A good quality kydex holster will grip your pistol and snap into place but anyone can take it out, and it can still fall out under high stress. 2 is something like soft nylon sheath with a button flap, not recommended.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:41

Also level 3 holsters that are operated with the trigger finger, like the serpa, are only good for shooting your leg

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:42

Well, I've used level IIIs before, and yes they are more secure. And generally not too bad. I've had problems with them overseas though. Namely the Blackhawk Serpa holsters.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:42

I have had some good ones though

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:43

To make it simple Kydex aiwb for concealed Safariland als for open. With hood if you're in law enforcement or security.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:43

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:43

Serpa bad

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:44

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:44

Yep, ran one of these POSs

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:45

🤮

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:45

Well you didn't have a choice i guess lol

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:45

I normally ran it off of belt or on my chest though

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:46

I don't care for drop leg.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:46

Yeah i don't really like drop leg because it slows me down

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:46

It gets irritating after wearing it for a long time.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:46

I want the weight more balanced and up to the center.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:47

Rather than on my leg.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:48

Oh man I don't have the picture anymore but there was one of a guy on Facebook. He had a baby holder chest rig thing with molle on the outside, and his serpa mounted to it

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:48

Father of the year

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:49

Omg, that is cringe, hahaha

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:50

And checked safariland, they don't make the kind of holster I want. The ones with light cuts, don't have optic cuts.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:54

JM custom kydex makes some good stuff. I have an owb holster from them for competition and class, but it looks like they don't do active retention. Very high quality kydex though, it's thick and grips like crazy.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:55

https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/OWB-V2-LB.html

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:57

Hmmm, thick you say?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 15:57

It's ugly as hell, but if it works, it works.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 15:58

Comes in different colors at least, though lead times can be a bit long

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 16:00

I've got one for my vp9 with tlr1. I also have a couple cheap kydex holsters for comparison, and they feel completely different, almost like they're using different materials. The cheap ones are super flimsy but this thing is rock solid.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:01

I've also noticed that no companies make holsters with a TLR-3 as a light choice. So I may have to spend a little and also get a TLR-1

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:10

Fuck it, I might just have to find a guy to make me a custom holster again.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:10

I had a custom one made, but I didn't have it molded for a light.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 16:10

Yeah tlr1 is the only streamlight flashlight that people usually make holsters for unless it's a subcompact, in which case tlr6

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:11

I might just upgrade to the TLR-1 anyway for it's more rugged construction.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:11

Plus, I sitll got one of those old ass Army drop legs that were thick nylon. Hahaha

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 16:12

It's a good light. They also make extended switches for them

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 May 2020 16:12

https://www.phlsterholsters.com/shop/arc-enhanced-wml-switches/

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:13

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:13

Roast my little hackjob. Chopped the 17 frame to a 19 and added grip tape

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:13

There's much more to be done. That's just the start.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:13

But yeah, the TLR-1 is nice, I'll probably go with that. Or look at a Surefire X300 maybe.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 16:14

I like it 🤷🏽‍♂️

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:14

Not sure yet

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:14

Like honestly, the grip tape was an awesome cheap mod.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:14

It's actually a camoflauge barrel wrap tape. But... it's basically a thick padded grip tape

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:16

I might end up upgrading the trigger. I'll putting a red dot and some suppressor height sights on though. Maybe get a threaded barrel down the line too.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 May 2020 16:17

Gonna regret that grip tape later bud

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:19

So far I haven't. I even went so far as to put it on my ARs with A2 handles. But hey, if it gets to be a pain, I'll remove it.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:21

Actually, while I have some time. I'm gonna do a little shooting before work.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 16:22

Why regret it? @Crye Salesman

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:23

I can think of two possible reasons... 1 That most tapes have a sticky residue that can be left on the weapon's surface. Mine does not, so I'm good there. And 2, the material itself can start to irritate the shooter or possibly come loose from friction/wear and tear. However, even if that were the case, it is very simple for me to remove.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:24

It's not a permanent fixture, just something to add a little extra meat on the grip.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 16:27

Yeah that’s true. Idk I feel like I would like grip tape.

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

01 May 2020 16:27

Stippling is nice but it’s a little slippery to me

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:29

I use Monett Self-Cling concealment wrap. Camo form LT

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 16:29

Made in the good ole USA

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JackLAXXX
(id: 351251101745676300)

01 May 2020 17:33

Looking to build a budget AR-15, don't really care if I have to piecemeal and assemble the parts but I do want it to be complete as opposed to an 80%er. Unless one of you kind gentleman has a drill press and experience with it. Any suggestions on online gun markets/manufacturers

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 17:34

Well... There's always PSA, but if you want to spend a little more for better QC, Aero.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 May 2020 17:34

I would recommend you save up a little bit, and use Aero receivers.

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JackLAXXX
(id: 351251101745676300)

01 May 2020 20:46

Many thanks, I was looking at those two. Seemed like a safe bet. Aero even has the pew pew pew model lower for sale currently

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