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The IIs with accutrigger are a ton nicer

And yeah especially my ruger being 16” I’m honestly surprised it does so well at 600 no issues

My only complaint are the rotary mags

Mine Hs never jammed like others but it’s flimsy and cheap feeling

The 5r sounds good to start with. Apparently the stock on the aac sd can flex and contact the barrel

Interesting

Oh, is the 5r magazine fed?

Yeah, the 5R barrel is one of the most accurate production barrels I’ve shot. Yeah I think so. They can all be magazine fed fairly easily

I don't know much about precision rifles, other than I have a decent one.

Hey, whoever isnt at work right now, lets go running. 10k

get off your fat ass with me lol

Looking at the 700 magpul enhanced. It has the same barrel but a magpul stock and takes magpul detachable magazines

Plus a rail for scope mounts and a bipod mount unlike the regular magpul one

https://tenor.com/view/mxc-most-extreme-elimination-challenge-lets-get-it-on-gif-14018412

fine ill go run by myself....

That’s definitely a good option @Confused

saving up for a scope is gonna be interesting lol

Lol this man thought I could run a 10k

I think I may save up for the scope first while doing research, then buy a rifle to mount it to

That’s the real professional move

That is literally, the best way to go about it, haha.

weird, there's a few articles saying mil dot is better than moa but almost everything out there is moa. I don't have any practical experience with both, I just know moa is something like 1.04something inches per 100 yards and mil dot is what the marines use I think

currently looking at the nightforce shv 5-20x56. I kinda want the nxs 5.5-22x56 but it's expeeeensive

Anyone have experience with 5.11 plate carriers

ah lovely, apparently mil reticle + moa turrets = mind numbing algebra. Going to avoid that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdB59FLQ18U

Now for people to work on improving the design

Ever look at guns you're considering buying and wonder how they can be so different?

In this case an Enfield, and a KSG

Oh yeah you don’t want mil reticle and MOA turrets, I ran a DMR like that for a deployment. Many math. There isn’t any actual difference between mil and MOA, it’s the gun equivalent of inches vs centimeters

I like the idea of mil, it sounds easier to gauge distances with

which would be nice if anyone made one

The only company I've found so far that makes mil dot scopes with mil adjustments is vortex

Idk where your looking but there’s just as many mil scopes as MOA

So I just got back and ended up doin 9 miles. Did any of you lazy fuckers go with me?

I'm seeing a ton of scopes with mildots but moa turrets

I did 5.6

@Confused are you looking at the Internet from 2012? 🤨

I got a vortex gen 1 pst 4-16x ffp for $350 and I love it

Yeah, I was dummy and got me a scope with moa turrets and mildots on it. It was big dumb.

So once I have my zero, I will only be using mildots. Thank god I'm not a sniper.

I'm looking at trijicon, leupold, and nightforce primarily. All three don't seem to make a single scope with mrad adjustments

They have mil reticles, but not adjustments

If you are gonna get a Mildot scope I'd reccomend 1st focal plane so you can actually make range estimations with it

I promise nightforce and trij do.

Idk about leupold but they should

You can do range est with both but with 2nd fp you have to be at max magnification

I've found one that looks like it fits my requirements. The nightforce shv 4-14x50 f1. First focal plane mildot reticle with 0.1 mrad adjustments at a price I can sorta reasonably afford

not sure I'm a fan of the reticle though, it's a bit cluttered

Oh I had one of those once! That’s an awesome choice man

It doesn’t do it justice, but that’s it on a Remington 5R

The reticle is much more visible than that to your eye

As far as reticles, there’s a learning curve, but the Horus/tremor style reticles offer a lot of capability over a traditional mil-dot style crosshairs

Seems like everything I've read about it is good. I think I'll start saving up for it.

Have you considered buying used?

Yeah, it looks like I'll be able to knock maybe 300 off the msrp price tag that way, but I still have to save up for it

Gotcha

The problems with being poor but not *a poor*

Hahah it is truly the worst spot

Do the mounting holes on the Remington 700 accept most direct scope mounts or is there a certain form factor to look out for?

Planning on using a single piece mount if i can

Figured this would probably be good https://www.primaryarms.com/nightforce-a219-direct-mount-rem-700-la-885-low-20-moa-30mm-a219

Yea you can put a 1913 rail on there

Have you checked armslist?

I just briefly checked OK and there are some nice precision rifles on there

While looking around it seemed like it would be more optional to mount it directly. At least according to the spuhr website

Haven't looked yet but I won't be buying the rifle for a few months anyway

I’d check it out there’s a couple really good deals right now

https://www.armslist.com/posts/11533321/texoma-oklahoma-rifles-for-sale--tikka-sako-rifles

Here’s a Tikka

Yeah, everyone and their dog has a 308 bolt action around here

Lmao yea same with up here

That’s what I love about armslist. You can find incredible deals. People that have to move shit quick

And the ones willing to do a BOS...can’t beat that

If the price is right I may be willing to go 308 instead of 6.5

I thought that’s what you wanted?

308?

I'd like to have something that, perhaps with the right barrel and load, can make a mile with the right person behind it, as that's as far as the ranges around here seem to go. Basically trying to get the most bang for my buck in a single rifle that I can learn with, so the two calibers that can do that while still being common enough are 6.5 creedmoor and 300 win mag. 300 is a bit hot and isn't allowed at some ranges, so 6.5 is the best all around option for me.

Damnnnnn you guys have mile ranges there?

That way if i move up from the 600-1000 yard classes to longer range shooting, I won't have to buy another rifle

Yeah there's one that i know of

Well if that’s the case then yea you should sit back and wait and make sure you spend more on glass than the rifle

It's out in the middle of nowhere an hour from me

Or get the rifle. Put something on it that’s good for that 600-1000 range. Practice that and save for the top glass

I had no problem hitting 629 with my 556

And it was just a 3-9x40 Nikon p223

So I'm looking at the Remington 700 in 6.5 because it's good enough to start with but has enough parts support to easily get a barrel that can do a mile. I'll be buying the optic first though as it's probably going to be more expensive, and more important

Sure will be

The 700 is a great choice

But like I said

If you want to get that first and something to go on top that will put you in the shorter range for a bit so you can save for the top glass that wouldn’t be a bad route to go either

That way you have a rifle

If you don’t already have any

If you already have guns then yea just go the way your saying

I often hear that the 700 is overpriced for the package you get.

I had one 4 years ago

After all, Remington kinda went down the shithole over the past few years with QC

By the time i have enough experience, i may need to change the barrel anyway lol. I don't really have anything I could put on it and don't wanna spend the extra money.

Then it was good I havent been in the DMR in a bit

That’s what confused was saying earlier