Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 3]

I CCW a Dragunov

When I whips out my Atlantic firearms nickel plated draco with nickel plates drum mag

And get real Mogadishu real fucking quick

b i g i r o n

when I whips out my Barrett m107

and get real American real fucking quick

When you get mugged so you whip out the saibo .50 BMG from your universal holster

the world shall know what it means to keep the strap

Big gov: yOu CaNt CaRrY a 50 me: 458 it is

I’m just gonna carry a CIWS then

I think my state only allows up to a 45. Constitutional carry at least

Real talk has anyone seen a case where a guy had to defend himself using RIP rounds yet

Carry a .45-70 then

I’d hate to watch someone do that

rip rounds: don't

I know

garbo

however there's a shotgun slug version that looks nasty

But I want someone to have used them to set a precedent in court

Because imo I can’t see anyway your not getting the long shaft of the law having to defend RIP rounds in court

I'd worry about the prosecutor turning to the jury and being like, see this wicked thing? It just screams intent to wound. They wanted to go out and hurt someone.

Forgive my ignorance, what's bad about RIPs?

they wound but don't kill

the goal is to create as large of a wound cavity as possible to stop the target, but rip rounds fragment so much that they're incapable of, as cringe as it sounds, "stopping power"

something like federal HST or speer gold dot that expands dramatically without fragmenting too much is what you want, because handgun rounds don't travel fast enough to cavitate like rifle rounds

Interesting

Critical duty master race

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/self_defense_ammo_FAQ/

very important read

I have old RIP ammo that was a gift

I would've figured multiple wound channels would mean more chances to cut arteries

everyone in the server needs to read this article

the article is put together by people with fancy titles such as *doctor* and extremely informative on ammunition

I’m going to concealed carry an A10 Warthog since I can’t have a .50

https://youtu.be/T6kUvi72s0Y

Denim test alone is not good use the FBI test

CCW a snubnose .500 S&W

A YTer called 1shot did a lot of videos on defense ammo educate yourselves and lucky gunner has a bunch of ballistics tests on ammo but just the denim test not FBI

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/

Anyone recommend any plate carrier brands or specific carriers?

Depends on your budget/mission. If budget isn't an issue, well anything Crye or Spiritus systems. If you are on the budget side, some Condors are okay, just know that their stitching sometimes has fail points. But with a $5 sewing kit you can reinforce said areas.

Of course, you get what you pay for, but depending on what you need, there are happy mediums.

Max I can do rn is about 150

I had to sew my condor and Rothco stuff over and over. My slickster will be here tomorrow

Get a slickster. They're like $160 shipped

I'm gonna look them up! Thanks

Yeah, slicksters from what I heard are good, overall they're good. But sometimes the QC for their fits might be a little off?

In all honesty though, I might get one myself if I don't get a LV119

Is it just a plate carrier with no Molle design? And you get add-ons to it?

I want one that has it on both sides, and overall cost about 150 A bit over is fine, under us even better

Shellback Tactical has the Patriot plate carrier, as well as the Skirmish.

They’ve got MOLLE on each side, the front, and back.

Ahh, you want like a full on normal PC

Ummm, lemme check to see what I can find in your budget, roughly.

I was about to recommend the Shellback Banshee, then I remember it's 250 haha

I’m looking at the Skirmish.

What yall thunk? I looked at the patriot but didn't have multicam, here it can be very green or very dry

I'd say any browns or darker greens can work, because they're both natural colors. Just don't do black or grey.

Go to the Shellback website and look at them. More pictures.

I think i found a winner

That Gucci hanger tho

Doesn't seem like a bad deal in all honesty. If it fits what you need it to do.

Shellback is a decently reputable brand, and I’m not knocking them. I’m just saying used JPC’s go for $200 all day

That’s true.

I got it, and also ordered plates, said they ship in 24hrs

JPCs might not fit what he wants exactly though. they're more lightweight and sport a different cumberbund.

I hear the SBTs are good on smaller frames guys. Is that true?

I’m about 5’9” and I weigh something like 140 soaking wet.

Haven't heard anything on how they fit certain frames. But that's all about the size and cumberbund.

But sounds like you should still fit in a medium.

Legally I'm 5'10 Damn government doesn't realize I'm 5'11 trying to act 6'

If that isn't oppression idk what is

Well I need to know the answer to that as well cause I’m 5’6 maybe 120

Looking at parts for my M11 Cobray online and see this:

Haha that's not a Cobr......... OH GOD MY EYES

Anyone got an opinion on the best lpvo in the 400-600 dollar range?

I want to get rid of one of my ar's and use the money for upgrades. Yes, I am a dirty smelly poor.

Pretty low end for lpvo's but I'd probably suggest the vortex strike eagle 1-6 Just don't go banging it around Another option is to get a good red dot like aimpoint, then save up for a good flip magnifier like an aimpoint 3x or 6x on a larue mount. You'll get much higher quality that way

@Confused striek eagle is what i was upgrading from

strike*

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ what the fu k us that grip

* not my build

what about a steiner p4xi? Worth it to upgrade from the 1-6 strike eagle?

otherwise I might go with a magnifier and red dot. Too much to pick from...

@squidsoup0 trijicon makes amazing LVPOs. But a primary arms would be easier on the wallet. Not knocking the strike eagle for what it is I have one on my PTR91

Wtf is even going on with that thing 😂

@squidsoup0 I have a brand new LPVO bushnell id sell you

Holy shit... theres a noreen ULR in 408 cheytac on sale for $1500

@GRANITE which one is it?

https://www.bushnell.com/products/ar-optics-riflescope-1-4x24-with-illuminated-btr-reticle/

Oh fug

I like the reticle very ACSS like

But for that price isn’t primary arms the same

No idea I’ve never used either

I just happened to acquire this the other week