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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 9]

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Sparrow
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19 Jun 2020 02:52

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Sparrow
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19 Jun 2020 02:53

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Sparrow
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19 Jun 2020 02:53

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 02:54

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=weapon+mounted+pvs14+with+scope&docid=608022138868334954&mid=4F33737C63AC5AC77B324F33737C63AC5AC77B32&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 02:54

There's a video that should cover it.

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:03

Don’t mount NVGs to your weapon... mount to a helmet (Bump or ballistic) and get an ATPIAL or likewise IR laser on your rifle

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:03

That's the best way. It sounds like he wants something for further range though.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:04

I had a TLR VIR and a IR laser on my night rifle

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:04

I believe for ACTUAL long range NV

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:04

You need to get a designated IR or thermal scope

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:04

Don’t play around with NVGs mounted for rifle and optics and magnifiers

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:04

Which would be a whole new system that would only be good at night.

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:04

Get a designated system

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:05

Yes but it’s DESIGNED for that job

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:05

Extremely more efficient and reliable, less moving parts, less points of failure

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:05

Of course.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:05

There are times for both.

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:05

NVG are night vision gogles. Not IR scopes

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:05

Goggles*

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:06

Use NVGs as NVGs, get an IR / thermal scope as a weapon mounted optic for nighttime operations

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

19 Jun 2020 03:06

zip tie a FLIR camera to your gun

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

19 Jun 2020 03:06

boom, IR scope

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:06

-_-

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

19 Jun 2020 03:06

it's a shitpost

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:06

I know lol

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:06

But you still disappointed me

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

19 Jun 2020 03:07

fair enough

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:07

He has a commie name

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:07

Uh. There’s no technical difference between a PVS-14 and a PVS-27 except lens’s sizes

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:08

Well, the tube might be bigger in the 27

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:08

Just carry around a searchlight and make it day wherever you're aiming.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:08

And clip on units are way more useful than standalone

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:09

Please drop you’re hurting me

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:09

Stop

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:09

The whole point of using IR is to see and shoot the enemy without them knowing you’re there

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:09

Using a flashlight is great because you can see everything perfect, BUT EVERYONE FOR A MILE can see you too

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:09

Pfft, use tracers and just fire in wide archs. Then re-direct them back towards the shouts.

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:10

Oh lawd

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:10

Welll, that’s not actually the whole point, or even the only point. That’s like 1 of 4.

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1-1Cannibal
(id: 629420155952300033)

19 Jun 2020 03:10

> Don’t mount NVGs to your weapon... mount to a helmet (Bump or ballistic) and get an ATPIAL or likewise IR laser on your rifle @F3R07 and run around with a two way line that let's anyone with nods see where I am

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:10

@Crye Salesman what are the other three

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:10

@1-1Cannibal that’s why you get a pressure pad, ONLY run your IR laser when aiming

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:11

Well, when using the IR laser, you don't keep it on, you only turn in on for micro-movements to your aim, and to signal.

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:11

Leaving it on 24/7 is terrible energy conservation as well as blatantly giving away your location

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:11

EXACTLY as crye just said

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:11

Navigation, communication, passive detection. And, if you’re fighting an IR-capable enemy, they can see you too

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:12

Just because it’s dark you can’t operate differently

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:12

You still need to use cover and concealment as if it were daylight

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:12

Make sure you don’t skyline yourself etc

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F3R07
(id: 501555281642127361)

19 Jun 2020 03:13

Because now we KNOW our enemy is IR capable as well

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1-1Cannibal
(id: 629420155952300033)

19 Jun 2020 03:14

And add a nice bright clearly visable line from you to your target, if only for a moment is enough to que them into where you are

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:15

I feel like you’ve never seen an IR laser before lol. Very rarely is it a “line” it’s usually just a dot on the target, and maybe some splash on intermediate photonic barriers depending on the environment

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:15

Exactly, in thicker more humid environments you may see little flickers of light.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:16

But it's often not a solid line unless it's a clear and dry day

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:16

Or if there’s smoke/fog

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:16

Wait, I have that wrong.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:16

Lol, dusty and dry. Or humid

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:16

Humid meaning fog and the like.

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1-1Cannibal
(id: 629420155952300033)

19 Jun 2020 03:17

Ah yes, my exact enviroment

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:17

And even then you’re only going to have reflection/sparkle for *maybe* 10% of the distance

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:18

By the time you may your first shot, they'll see you.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:18

With or without a laser.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:18

Unless you have a really good can

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1-1Cannibal
(id: 629420155952300033)

19 Jun 2020 03:20

Also thick vegatation is very prevalent, and from when I've used visable laser aiming devices they are damn near useless here

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:26

And not all IR is the same. If you know your enemies IR capability, you can run active aiming devices on a higher or lower spectrum and bypass their detection

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

19 Jun 2020 03:27

I currently have this on my 12” barrel. What flashhider should I switch to in order to minimize concussion to people around and hide the signature

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

That's the one I use.

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

I have that on my 16^

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

sinus clearer

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

But... that's no good for what you want, lol

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

The VG6 is not a...friendly device haha

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

That’s what I’m thinking

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

19 Jun 2020 03:28

^

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

19 Jun 2020 03:29

Haha the Larue is fantastic for me... not so much for anyone near

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:29

Exactly, same with mine, lol

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:29

Tell them to grow up and use double layer, electronic ear pro lol

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:29

Honestly... I've found that the standard A2 bird cage... Is a decent muzzle device.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 Jun 2020 03:29

I just got extremely lucky. Ordered an LMT full auto enhanced BCG

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:29

Fuck you

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 Jun 2020 03:29

XD

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

found it in stock?

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

where the hell 😂

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

I had a vortex on a few old ones and like it

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

Damn, really?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

Yeah some random little firearm store in chicago on the third page of google search

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

I tend to just buy BCM Full auto BCGs

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

You do not understand the secret sauce

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:30

Extraction timing

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:31

Carrier velocity

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:31

Gas volume

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:31

Reeeeee

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[MI] LawlessHawk
(id: 705975254513614920)

19 Jun 2020 03:31

So is a full auto bcg just the best thing ever for an ar platform?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:31

It’s not about full auto, that’s just the cut at the rear

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:32

The LMT-E carrier has an altered cam path activation track

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 Jun 2020 03:32

Fuck you confused I said it first

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 Jun 2020 03:32

lol

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[MI] LawlessHawk
(id: 705975254513614920)

19 Jun 2020 03:32

So essentially its just a higher functioning bcg

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

19 Jun 2020 03:32

how much did you pay for it

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

19 Jun 2020 03:32

normal price or more

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