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For the discussion of medicine in general, and related topics.

[MS]WebMDemt
(id: 406275025231020042)

06 May 2020 20:34

Pain meds can be pilfered as can surgical instruments and suture

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[MS]WebMDemt
(id: 406275025231020042)

06 May 2020 20:35

Hog hunters suture their own dogs pretty often. In a pinch the same could be done on humans

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 21:56

I agree with @Thorne. Letā€™s create a Committee of Tactical [REDACTED] Combat Care.

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

06 May 2020 22:03

I like where you're taking it but we honestly need a few committees. Do we have any central hubs?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 22:04 edited: 2020-05-06T22:06:59.991+00:00

We can discuss solutions for our specific situation.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 22:08

I donā€™t know of any central hubs that we could use that are straight medical.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 22:08

We can always create that.

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

06 May 2020 22:20

I guess what we could do is kind of organize a network. Or a framework really

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

06 May 2020 22:21

The worst part is there's no real way to identify. Or we don't want to do it on a public server.

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

06 May 2020 22:21

Discussions that need to happen in private and/or on voice.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 22:29

Keybase is a possible solution.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 22:30

Go through Discord on a main server, and those who we see are useful and contribute, we PM and get on KB.

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

06 May 2020 22:42

Never used or heard of it before. But I'm down for it.

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PandaMedic (友儽ēš„ē†ŠēŒ«)
(id: 534251671908515840)

06 May 2020 22:47

Ooh zoomer you went all blue

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PandaMedic (友儽ēš„ē†ŠēŒ«)
(id: 534251671908515840)

06 May 2020 22:48

I guess i should get go and get a medic tag

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

06 May 2020 22:48

Can I get a liability tag instead of a medic tag?

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PandaMedic (友儽ēš„ē†ŠēŒ«)
(id: 534251671908515840)

06 May 2020 22:48

Lol

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PandaMedic (友儽ēš„ē†ŠēŒ«)
(id: 534251671908515840)

06 May 2020 22:48

Anything is possible

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

06 May 2020 22:49

I just want society to collapse so I can say I'm a doctor

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 23:03

@Thorne Itā€™s an end to end encrypted platform.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

06 May 2020 23:03

Secure.

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:09

> Initially taking a care point and command would be important. I cant take any of this seriously unless there's a full thought plan. @Thorne no, you are right. Sorry everyone else but he is absolutely right

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:10

Y'all keep only thinking combat injuries but

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

07 May 2020 02:10

E. Coli

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:10

Half of y'all wouldn't even live through the summer

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:10

Pest borne diseases

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:11

> E. Coli @Catman yes

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:11

Water and food contanimation

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:12

I'm taking the initiative to start a prolonged field care and disease prevention thread. You're no good at any level if you're ridden with disease and your feet are fucked up lol

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

07 May 2020 02:13

Foot powder is a huge game changer in the rain.

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:16

Faacctss

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:16

Also permethrin and appropriate field wear

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

07 May 2020 02:17

I learned the hard way that open cell foam inside boots sucks ass after it gets soaked.

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:25

Ooofff

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:26

Hey all, on the subject, let's talk about medical emergencies. Not every medical emergency requires hospitalization and in the field many can even be stabilized. Does anybody have any prior knowledge on this subject?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 02:32

> Hey all, on the subject, let's talk about medical emergencies. Not every medical emergency requires hospitalization and in the field many can even be stabilized. Does anybody have any prior knowledge on this subject? @RaginMedic23 @Catman Knows about infections.

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

07 May 2020 02:32

I can get by

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 02:33

> Y'all keep only thinking combat injuries but @RaginMedic23 I donā€™t just focus on combat injuries. Preventative medicine, typical diseases, viruses, and the like are also something Iā€™m interested in learning about.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 02:33

I keep Amoxicillin and Iā€™m gonna work on sourcing other meds related.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 02:34

And yes, field stabilization is a thing. Correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but couldnā€™t you stabilize a casualty with TXA for a while as long as HEMCON is maintained and be able to wait a good while until EVAC?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 02:35

> I'm taking the initiative to start a prolonged field care and disease prevention thread. You're no good at any level if you're ridden with disease and your feet are fucked up lol @RaginMedic23 Iā€™m fine with learning about infections and the like. One damn thing people seem to overlook is preventing that shit from ever happening. Change socks every single time they get wet, maintain proper hygiene.

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:45

Facts. I'm going to pitch adding a new channel. But the information comes from links with credible sources only

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RaginMedic23
(id: 705214820017766432)

07 May 2020 02:45

AMEDD, JEMS, ETC

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Catman
(id: 439587607220060161)

07 May 2020 02:47

Pushing anti-biotics can easily kill people so be careful

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 02:57

How about we make a separate medical server where we can all post evidence based medicine and discuss it all?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 02:58

And then publish findings that would be useful?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 04:34

I think it would be a good start in getting our medical shit together.

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

07 May 2020 11:19

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ txa isn't a cure all. Its a short short fix. We're talking 10/15 min tops

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

07 May 2020 11:20

I'm a paramedic on a public service, did a handful of years private. Ran around one of our major cities. That's where I had my teeth cut on my trauma. Medical is 90% of my job.

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PandaMedic (友儽ēš„ē†ŠēŒ«)
(id: 534251671908515840)

07 May 2020 13:08

Another server would be cool.

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PandaMedic (友儽ēš„ē†ŠēŒ«)
(id: 534251671908515840)

07 May 2020 13:08

This is why we check our gear. Left NS thats gtg. Right, NS thats expired and cloudy

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 13:44

> @[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ txa isn't a cure all. Its a short short fix. We're talking 10/15 min tops @Thorne Thatā€™s why I asked.

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

07 May 2020 13:44

right I'm not bitchin, just laying it out there

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 13:45

Thank you.

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[OK] Hopefully Heroic
(id: 459488380766519308)

07 May 2020 19:58

Hey guys, I spent a short time as a Certified Surgical Technologist. Going to start browsing through here. Just thought I would say hi.

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[MS]WebMDemt
(id: 406275025231020042)

07 May 2020 20:00

Welcome. What kind of experience do you have as a CST? Any Ortho or Lvl 1 trauma?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 20:19

Alright I think I might start a server for this.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 20:19

So all of us can congregate.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 20:27

Give me a little while to set things up and Iā€™ll drop the invite.

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Greybeard
(id: 661352010984980490)

07 May 2020 23:58

If you treat animals, is anyone gonna take it personally when you put their stitches in? Promise to leave the balls and no one gets an E-collar

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 00:00

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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[OK] Hopefully Heroic
(id: 459488380766519308)

08 May 2020 00:15

I did Ortho in Tulsa for a year. Been like 9 years though.

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[OK] Hopefully Heroic
(id: 459488380766519308)

08 May 2020 00:17

Worked a critical hospital in Wyoming for 3 months, but didn't have enough experience to stay. Nothing like an emergency C Section at 3am in your PJ's

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Acadian Adventurer
(id: 280732608223248385)

08 May 2020 00:18

I need to learn how to stitch people. I've stapled animals from here to kingdom come, but never used a needle

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[OK] Hopefully Heroic
(id: 459488380766519308)

08 May 2020 00:19

Did some of that, surprisingly not that hard. Right tools help.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 00:39

@[OK] Hopefully Heroic True. Try it with none of the right tools and itā€™s pretty hard

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[OK] Hopefully Heroic
(id: 459488380766519308)

08 May 2020 00:41

Word. Needles and latex and blood is a slippery mess.

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[OK] Hopefully Heroic
(id: 459488380766519308)

08 May 2020 00:41

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 00:49

Who here wants to help make that medical server?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 May 2020 00:56

Iā€™d be happy to input my experiences and knowledge, but Iā€™m not strictly speaking a medical professional

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 00:57

Iā€™m really just worried about the structure and organization of it.

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[OK] Hopefully Heroic
(id: 459488380766519308)

08 May 2020 02:02

I have not created a discord before and only online by phone means.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 02:04

Alright

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 May 2020 03:58

Iā€™m an admin on like 6 or 7 discords @[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ Iā€™m fairly fluent in setting them up

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 03:59

Not sure what we need to have

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

08 May 2020 11:39

Basics. Just make a spot. Make yourself admin. And collect medical peeps.

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

08 May 2020 11:39

Select a few you want running the show or throwing out scenarios then go from there.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 14:23

I made a server.

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ThrowingKnife21
(id: 671791438325088269)

08 May 2020 14:25

Could I join to learn. I donā€™t say much but I pay attention and read most of whatā€™s going on

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 14:27

I donā€™t see how that would be detrimental.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 14:27

So sure man.

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ThrowingKnife21
(id: 671791438325088269)

08 May 2020 14:28

How do I get to it?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 14:29

I attempted to post a link but MEE6 said ā€œy e e tā€

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 14:29

Really

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 14:30

Said I couldnā€™t post that link

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ThrowingKnife21
(id: 671791438325088269)

08 May 2020 14:30

Thanks

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

08 May 2020 16:58

Link plz?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 May 2020 17:06

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ Gimme the link and I can post it.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 May 2020 17:06

Actually, here.. I'm just gonna fix your perms

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 May 2020 17:07

https://discord.gg/P89qwd

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Thorne
(id: 226471688181645312)

08 May 2020 17:48

Thanks sparrow

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Jaseace
(id: 169567044998529033)

09 May 2020 01:33

Lemee catch a link

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Acadian Adventurer
(id: 280732608223248385)

09 May 2020 01:34

That's what a fed would say

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Jaseace
(id: 169567044998529033)

09 May 2020 01:34

Lol

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Jaseace
(id: 169567044998529033)

09 May 2020 01:35

You can search my chat history fam, I ainā€™t got time to argue.

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Jaseace
(id: 169567044998529033)

09 May 2020 01:38

Feel better? Now can someone link me the medical discord

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Acadian Adventurer
(id: 280732608223248385)

09 May 2020 01:41

That's what a fed would tell me to do

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Acadian Adventurer
(id: 280732608223248385)

09 May 2020 01:42

But also yeah, can you guys resend the link?

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Greybeard
(id: 661352010984980490)

09 May 2020 23:18

Ditto. Trying to learn some human medicine

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Greybeard
(id: 661352010984980490)

10 May 2020 15:05

Are there general standard on roles of team medics? Like are they typically using a DMR and supporting?

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