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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

12 Jun 2020 17:11

Because it shows common dosages for common prescription uses

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

12 Jun 2020 17:11

But always remember BLS before ALS

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

12 Jun 2020 17:11

Oh of course

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

12 Jun 2020 17:11

I likeed it for old people like yea I got all these meds don't know what they're for though

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

12 Jun 2020 17:11

@AppalachianTerminus bro every time

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

12 Jun 2020 17:11

Lol legit

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

12 Jun 2020 17:13

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

12 Jun 2020 17:13

Just a taste of the app abs the info it had

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

13 Jun 2020 01:40

What if you used multiple

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 01:42

@littlebitt08 everything you said is wrong

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 01:42 edited: 2020-06-13T01:42:41.995+00:00

There is no evidence to support tampons being effective in hemorrhage control, and multiple tests have proven that they are ineffective in a major bleed. Z fold combat gauze, Quik Clot ect for junctionalaxial wound, tq's for limbs and Tagaderm or chest seals for trunk injuries

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 01:44

Don't put your life in the hands of .50 cent roll of cotton. I respect your a medical assistant. But Pre Hospital emergency mrdicine. Trauma Medicine is much different then hospital or clinic settings

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

13 Jun 2020 01:44

What if you used like a hole bunch of them, would they work then

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 01:45

@Thatotherguy no. You need PRESSURE to stop bleeds. We're taking POUNDS of direct pressure. End of story

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magpie_(3inch)
(id: 704450073865748711)

13 Jun 2020 01:45

Why not just stick your dick in the bullet hole. bETtEr tHan NoThiNg

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

13 Jun 2020 01:46

What if you stuffed a whole lotta them in really tightly

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 01:46

@Thatotherguy no, and at that point you might as well use wound packing gauze. Listen in all seriousness of you are untrained in a procedure DO NOT PERFORM THE PROCEDURE. If you've never pack a wound before the worst time to learn is the real thing. Alot goes down in a little bit of time.

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

13 Jun 2020 01:46

K

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 01:47

If you cheap out and use tampons your only killing the guys your rendering aid too. Buy the legit equipment, learn to use it

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

13 Jun 2020 01:47

K

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 01:52

Think of it like this, you get shot in the groin and your illiac artery rupturs and starts bleeding perfusely. If you don't stop that bleed quick you'll die. No what if about it. It will take no less then 3 minutes to bleed to death after the rupture of a major artery and you only have a minute tops to control it yourself before stock starts setting in and you lose fine motor skills among other things. Shock can Cause Alerted Mental Status, make you confused and act irrational

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

13 Jun 2020 08:20

Thats when you take 2.5 mins to pray to satan that he get outta your chair cuz your coming for his ass. Then lodge a .357 in the dead center of your brain and claim that throne

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 14:39

remember kids. a belt can act as a tourniquet, use tampons to stuff into wounds, and duct tape to seal

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 14:39

and that needle decomp? ezpz just slam that fucker in there

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 14:39

@Bender please tell me your looking

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 14:39

Joking *

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 14:40

you can also tourniquet a wound on the neck

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 14:40

Lol

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 14:41

need pounds of pressure? wrap the whole limb in several layers of duct tape

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 14:41

ezpz

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 14:42

doctors spend 300k on an education and i know all this stuff from facebook šŸ˜Ž

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 14:53

@Bender bruh so much cringe in one comment

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 15:06

just use maxi pads bro

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 15:16

I hate you all.....

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 15:25

i hate me too

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

13 Jun 2020 15:25

Somehow I knew thereā€™d be one person in medical chat ironically saying use tampons to plug wounds

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

13 Jun 2020 15:27

actually just rip off pieces of your tshirt and plug wounds with that. cotton is absorbent right?

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 16:00

@Mountain Man most of the people sticking behind that logic have never actually worked up a traumatic patient

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 16:13

My favorite are the ones you even show the studies and they tell you it's a conspiracy to keep people buying expensive gear

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:42

Why not pack the right tools

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:42

I'll never understand the is better than nothing argument

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:42

I roll off gauze is 2 bucks at literally any store or gas station in North America

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:42

Buy fucking gauze

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:43

Iā€™ll send you some gauze if you need

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:44

You do you bub but if I get shot donā€™t shove a tampon in me Iā€™ll rub dirt on it before

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:45

@littlebitt08 what's your experience level

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:45

Medical experience

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:45

Or just grab my ifak.....

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:46

If my ifak gets dropped off me then I deserve to die

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:46

@littlebitt08 what experience do you have in medicine

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:47

@littlebitt08 what's your medical experience and training

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:47

I'm gonna nearly guarantee that what ever wound you packed with tampons wasn't so severe it required much more then direct pressure anyway

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:47

Well Iā€™m just saying we need the patients to speak up

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:47

Now or forever hold your peace

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:48

Well @littlebitt08 where are you from

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:48

@littlebitt08 what work

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:48

Ah well Iā€™m safe šŸ¤£

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:50

Dude are you getting mad because no one wants a tampon shoved in em when theyā€™re more effective shit out there

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:50

@littlebitt08 what job do you do that involves medical training and patient care

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:50 edited: 2020-06-13T22:50:38.556+00:00

Iā€™m a first responder and thereā€™s not a single pack of tampons in our trucks šŸ¤£

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

Besides the fact that a tampon is a piss poor way to control bleeding once a hemorrhage control device is in place you do not remove it until your in the trauma room or OR with the trauma surgeon ready to fix you

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

Yeah I wonā€™t be long if you shove a tampon in me

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

BRO YOUR THE FUCKING WANNABE

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

@littlebitt08 you gonna answer the question of just keep playing pretend

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

Yeah delete your comment bro

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

Itā€™s a gunshot not a period

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

No it's not you have no business being in medicine if that's what you think you're mentality will kill people

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

Literally

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:51

You also havenā€™t answered youā€™re medical experience

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:52

@littlebitt08 what is you job

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:52

@Sam SimpChester he probably has non

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:52

@littlebitt08 where is your training from

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:52

Probably google @AppalachianTerminus

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:52

@littlebitt08 what makes you think you know better than the MULTIPLE EMTS in this group with years of real training and experience

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:53

Now he won't answer because he can't answer the question

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:53

He prob thinks homemade tq's Great too. "Seeing as your gonna wait till an actually medic brings legit equipment" bro sit down and actually learn s thing or too

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:53

@Landfill he said earlier that a pants belt makes a good tq

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:53

Dudes a fudd

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:54

Smdh, bro I'm at a loss for words

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:55

Shit like that gets people killed

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:56

It's like when a CNA rolls up on scene and tells me shes in control of the scene now because she's a nurse

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:56

He called one of us a wannabe and then deleted it shortly after, like bro I'm an EMT in the Metropolitan NY area, i seen more trauma in 4 years then he does watching "untold stories of the ER"

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:56

Yea ok Becky I hear them calling you back to room 12 at the old folks home

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:57

Bro i kick them off my scene every time

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:57

I did 6 years for 2 rural services covering about 80 percent of Aroostook County maine. You look at a Pic and believe me when I say I've done prolonged field care

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 22:58

I've been to calls in the woods that have 3 hour respond times

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:58

@littlebitt08 where ya went

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 22:58

Heā€™s probably logging into his alt accounts šŸ¤£

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:58

@AppalachianTerminus Yo i give y'all props for that everyone here bashes rural EMS but it's like you guys gotta manage that pt for an hour or more to the hospital. And if your BLS your gonna be in for a wild ride

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 22:58

Here meaning my area

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

13 Jun 2020 23:03

My favorite was transfers from northern Maine to mass general

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Sam SimpChester
(id: 500405064817573898)

13 Jun 2020 23:30

I motion we make two separate chats on for people who use tampons and this one for people who actually wanna save lives

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

13 Jun 2020 23:47

I'm in favor

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

14 Jun 2020 03:32

Another tq to look into, BE ADVISED THOUGH, IF THE RACHET FAILS THEY TELL YOU TO TREAT IT AS A CAT. At that point you should buy a cat but this is another TCCC approved tq https://youtu.be/QMNaNZek-xQ

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Rosiland
(id: 492011214801600512)

14 Jun 2020 07:29

Actually its because yall are blocked. Tampons are not meant to replace medical equipment when you can get proper materials. The point was if supplies are dried up and you had two options, use it or bleed out, it can be used. It was a trick passed along by a SF medic who was at FOB Keating with my unit. It is fine that in your experience things are different. It is also fine if you want to bleed out when all other materials are gone. Also bitch boy winchester, surely you can start a message better than 'your an idiot' As for me i was the lone paramedic for a county where the hospital was a 3 hour drive if you are lucky. I will focus on my men while yall stroke off over eachother.

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littlebitt08
(id: 387351802846248960)

14 Jun 2020 07:30

Very true

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

14 Jun 2020 11:10

Of all the things that didn't Happen that didn't Happen the most bro but you keep on killing your special forces buddy y'all really are special

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Landfill
(id: 267136787397214208)

14 Jun 2020 11:22

Further more there's a 1001 better options then packing a wound with fucking tampons "if supplies dry up" once again you don't under stand he idea behind wound packing and because some wanna be said they did it a few times everyone thinks it works. And i gaurentee any SF unit is going to have the proper medical equipment. Everyone has a right to their own opinion until it's an opinion that is going to get another human being killed. Then i have a huge issue with that. I've seen trauma patients go to shit quick, once shock sets in in the field your chances of saving the patient drop substantially, ever if you run ALS you can only maintain them for so long before they decompensate and expire. Furthermore your sticking your foot in your mouth for someone who after MULTIPLE TIMES BEING ASKED BY BOTH MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND THE ADMIN TEAM REFUSED TO RELEASE THEIR LEVEL OF TRAINING OR PROVIDER STATUS. So all your doing is making your self look like a jackass to defend some mcguiver wanna be medic bullshit that does not and will not work on any wound that actually requires wound packing

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Z3R0
(id: 438155772719792129)

15 Jun 2020 02:27

Did this MF legit just recommend using tampons for GSWā€™s?šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ please tell me you also suggest leather belts as ā€œjust as guddā€ tqā€™s.

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Z3R0
(id: 438155772719792129)

15 Jun 2020 02:28

@Rosiland#7984 I highly doubt you were any count of paramedic if you legitimately believe any of the garbage you just posted, I also doubt you were ever anything more than an EMR.

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