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For the discussion of medicine in general, and related topics.

[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:54

I knew everything that EMT did and knew it faster

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:54

Quick convo with you and a look through the shit you’ve been posting, you’re already more competent than most medic students I’ve precepted lol

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:56

You learn a bit talking with a Green Beret Combat Medic lol

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VLGhost
(id: 420637933649788949)

28 Apr 2020 05:56

@PandaMedic (友好的熊猫) yes Zoomer knows his shit

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:56

Appears so. Even the boog needs medics

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:56

Certs or not

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

Boog needs medics more than it does a lot of things

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

Like seriously

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

Right

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

You know what would be badass?

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

Terminator

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

Having logistics setup to the point that EVAC is possible

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

And we have *surgeons*

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:57

My “group of friends” we shall call it has one

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:58

But instead we’re probably just gonna have to take a bottle of isopropyl, tweezers, and sutures and do the best we damn can

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:58

Nothing as cool as a blackhawk for evac though

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:58

I’m gonna get extremely basic surgical shit

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:58

Scalper and blades for it

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:58

Suturing forceps and all of that.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:58

Scalpel*

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:58

Tweezers, sutures

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 05:59

Get some good stainless shit. Get sutures and just practice on chicken with skin attached

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:59

Yeah I’m gonna see what I can do.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 05:59

I have a feeling I’m gonna have to wing it and the bois will help me “acquire” an ambulance.

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 06:00

Preferably dead. Ill admit my suturing skills arent beautiful, but i can close a wound decently enough. Hard thing to get good at though unless you do it often

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:00

I like the idea of that 3M shit you can use

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:00

I wanna try zip-stitch as well.

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 06:01

Honestly, id raid an ambulance shack and stuff all the shit into a chevy express or something. Those 3m sticky zip tie stitches?

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:01

That and the brush on skin or adhesive shit

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:01

Liquid skin or something like that

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 06:01

Cardiac monitor and all the supplies. Gloves, batteries, radios, everything

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 06:03

Yeah when i planned my plate carrier for my role in my group of friends, the HSP flatpack plus isnt big enough for the shit i ‘could’ take. Lucky we have a setup that allows field care other than me

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:03

For real, they have nice stuff

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:03

And all the stuff that isn’t available OTC

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:03

like the glorious ket

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 06:04

Flatpack plus with the clear plastic pouches will do. I know where my locals shit is. Ket, fentanyl, versed, etomidate

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Riot2020
(id: 704544011624513557)

28 Apr 2020 06:04

If all else fails you could raid a veterinarian ha ha

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:05

I see a lot of that stuff working. One thing though, not all of the meds for EMS will be applicable to TCCC

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:05

Busting clots and all sorts of stuff

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:05

It’s a lot different

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:06

In combat medicine, HEMCON is the best thing you can do for a casualty

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:08

Blood isn’t easily replaceable in the field

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:08 edited: 2020-04-28T06:08:39.448+00:00

I’ve heard of medics leaving arterial bleeds open

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:08

Because they can replace the blood

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:17

You know what’s gonna suck? All the damn pelvic area hits we might encounter

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Riot2020
(id: 704544011624513557)

28 Apr 2020 06:20

Can’t TQ a taint ha ha

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:22

Imma pack the shit out of it

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:22

I saw a device that looks cool as shit

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 06:27

Ive had older medics tell me tampons are good for gsws.. i roll my eyes so hard i about go blind.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:27

holy hell

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:27

Yeah no

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:27

I said earlier how tampons didn’t work

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Riot2020
(id: 704544011624513557)

28 Apr 2020 06:29

What was that device was supposed to be made, actually kinda looked like a tampooooon, but shot in thousands of little cloting agents

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:30

That’s what I was talking about earlier when we were on pelvic wounds

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:30

That damn thing works wonders

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:31

I wish I could find one

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:31

That and some Fast Ones

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:31

I’m going to use Fast ones out of spite on my boys

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Riot2020
(id: 704544011624513557)

28 Apr 2020 06:32

Oh shit ok, I never knew if they actually made it ha ha

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:33

Yeah CoTCCC put out a video with it.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:34

It’s amazing for junctions wounds that a TQ can’t handle

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Riot2020
(id: 704544011624513557)

28 Apr 2020 06:38

Damn that’s what’s up! I never knew it actually came to be

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 06:39

I’d love one

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AR
(id: 570032488143913032)

28 Apr 2020 10:58

You mean the SAM splint? Works pretty good

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AR
(id: 570032488143913032)

28 Apr 2020 10:59

Fuck, I meant SAM junctional tourniquet 🤣

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

28 Apr 2020 12:17

Discussion: What has the COVID-19 pandemic taught us about the need to prepare ourselves and families in the face of apocalyptic pandemics in the future.

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

28 Apr 2020 12:25

I personally think it reinforced the idea of “prepping” more than just food and water. Learning what I actually consume every month to survive and what I either need to stock up on or substitute in the event I cannot go to store that will have basic necessities stocked for weeks.

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

28 Apr 2020 12:28

@Copbot1001 this could prob be moved over to member chat channel

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Copbot1001
(id: 169624315518517250)

28 Apr 2020 12:30

I’ll copy/paste

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 13:27

> Fuck, I meant SAM junctional tourniquet 🤣 @AR That’s not it. It’s basically a big ass syringe (not the pokey kind) filled with clotting foam that’s small.

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RonPaulsBat
(id: 649813898190389258)

28 Apr 2020 14:31

Nurse, former volunteer fire rescue here

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 14:32

Very nice.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 14:35

Again, if anyone has medical questions, feel free to ask them.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 14:35

You’re in good hands.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 14:38

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694701420284346428/699714367003951194/IFAK.pdf

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 14:38

This goes over what you need in your IFAK.

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

28 Apr 2020 14:40

6 years 911 AEMT in rural and wilderness ems systems, as well as long distance Interfacility Transfers

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 14:44

Looks like we’ve got medical covered pretty well.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 14:45

If you guys have any useful information, feel free to post it.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

28 Apr 2020 16:07

I haven't checked them out yet but I've heard good things about dark angel medical

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 16:19

Sorry boys, passed the fuck out.

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
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28 Apr 2020 16:19

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 16:20

Celox A and xstat (the dildo looking one) are the ones I’ve played with.

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 16:21

Not a fan of the granules but i do like those sponges. They were trialing some injectable foam shit for abdominal trauma, not sure if it went to actual tests. Looked like a pain in the ass for surgery.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 16:53

X-Stat is the shit

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bullmoose
(id: 704744859872788571)

28 Apr 2020 17:37

I just had to use celox on my finger today. What I found was that the granules will sit in top of the blood if you are heavily bleeding. It was only effective with multiple applications and constant pressure. I want to experiment with other hemostatic agents to see what the results are.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 17:38

Celox is made to be applied AFTER you remove as much blood as you can from the wound.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 17:38

Primarily for that reason.

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 17:47

Id rarely recommend hemostatics on digits unless there wasn’t enough room for a TQ or use of pressure points. The granules have quite a few problems, as Zoomer said, its designed to be placed as close to the bleed as possible with as little blood as possible. Thats why i like the z fold, wrap it around your finger and stuff it in the hole. Lol

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 17:49

I want an X-Stat so bad

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 17:49

Anyone know the price?

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 17:50

A coworker bought one and he paid like $40/$50

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 17:51

Let me check

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 17:52

The X-Stat 12 is currently $91.75 at panakeiausa

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 17:52

Each

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 17:52

holy fuck

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 17:52

Nevermind then

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 17:52

They sell 3 packs for $275.25

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PandaMedic (友好的熊猫)
(id: 534251671908515840)

28 Apr 2020 17:52

Yeah right? Lol

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

28 Apr 2020 17:53

Packing gauze for me

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