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Massive Hemorrhage, Airway, Respiration, Circulation, Hypothermia/Exposure

*intercostal space*

Once they can breath properly again, remove the needle and make sure they're sealed off

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http://www.naemt.org/education/naemt-tccc/tccc-ac-guidelines-and-curriculum

2nd intercostal space, mid clavicular line.

I’m a little drunk right now but I believe we once again decided to leave the needle in.

Lateral with the *nipple*

Or

:pepeheart:

I'm just going off of memory

4th and 5th IC space, mid-axillary line.

It kept changing back and forth. I always say leave the needle in. Better safe than sorry.

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Situation dictates

Unless you’re doing sketchy evacuation shit

Typed a whole ass novel for us and the bot got his ass

oof

Well you see it in the logs

Oughta screen cap and repost it here

Obviously black out the word if needed

Oof

There you go.

The treating part is legally...well, I don’t think any of us are qualified to give that legal advice

You make a fair point.

Not even myself. Constantly reminded once we walked off post, we were just emt-b’s. Barely able to help a patient take their own nitroglycerin.

damn

It’s a strange world in combat medicine.

Do not circumvent the rules with screenshots man. Just say it without it.

I mean. Going out and treating people? No. Someone gets into a car crash or shootout in front of you and you provide first aid? Fine

Instead of the b**g word use combat

I guess it’s more along the lines of doing as much as you can and then bail if I understand correctly. Hinges on the chance that, despite being a member, they’ll still get medical help after.

Not sure what rule I broke tbh or I would. I joined this discord right at its start before rules yesterday .

Oh that’s the word. Okay.

Yeah man, were trying to avoid hot words.

I got it 😉

Dont want people getting flaghed

Flagged** ty for understanding and being cool about it.

Yeah makes sense. I know I’m good but for reasons I can’t say. But that can’t change any moment.

Can****

But yeah guys, medicine is not black or white is the worst part of teaching it. Those who do, bless their hearts, know the difficulty of the politics at stake. The moment you receive training, you fall under an entirely different set of rules sadly. What was once an innocent and genuinely helpful attempt, is now a crime because you received “training”. While this may discourage some, I still 100 percent recommend with all my heart say to get the real training.

Yeah that legal part bruh. No.

But go get training

It may open a new field of political and bureaucratic nightmares, but it also saves lives. And that’s worth every fuckin second of stupidity.

I agree.

Zoomer please Pin that link to the NAEMT TC3-AC. It’s a start for many people, and I will refer to it in the future. Outside of the politics of how we may feel, I truly believe saving lives is just as important as any other feeling we may have. Nobody needs to die for our future, and we should do all we can to save lives. No matter the situation.

Whether we disagree or not, our fellow man is not the enemy. We all strive for the same goals, but our ideology may differ. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of property as Locke intended. Happiness derives itself from these. And ALL men and women deserve these three principles. Through the faults of our founding fathers we find wisdom, and through their wisdom we find liberty. For every man and woman, we will strive for that. That is the foundation which we find ourselves upon. Equality, even with the “enemy”. For we are men.

I will save any and all that I am able to.

Regardless if they are the enemy.

If they are gravely wounded, I shall not let them continue to die.

I will do what I can.

And that’s a medic^

To both those btw

A life is a life.

Life is sacred. Whether you believe in a higher power or not, we were all created equal.

Exactly. We all have equal worth.

I may say god created men to be free, but men are created to be free in the final message I wish to be understood.

I will help, as with many medical personnel, any and everyone that comes across.

😳 oh boy

Hm?

At 17 you can undertake emt-b. Yes, to the medical community it’s a joke, but fuck it it’s better than nothing. Three years fly by bud. Love of life. That’s the foundation of medicine.

By all means.

I promise you not everyone out there is striving for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

I’m aware of that.

That’s the issue. It’s not the pursuit of happiness. No man has a right to be happy.

Jefferson changed the lockean principle of the pursuit of property to pursuit of happiness due to the uneasy times of his life. The three fifths compromise existed to do exactly that, compromise. As they had to deal with southern slave states that refused to reject slavery, they changed property to happiness, as to not enforce an idea they fundamentally disagreed with.

But we live in a modern age, where men are no longer property, so why continue to bastardize the ideas that our founding fathers intended that weren’t unfortunately biased by the sins of their time? Also, we might want to move this convo to another chat if you wanna have it. I’m enjoying it.

I was referring to the concept that you have a moral obligation to treat enemy combatants

Combatants is the key there. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, as many day. Politics aside, we are all combatants in the end. I remember in training, we were shown a video of a man, believe an admiral I can’t recall for sure, discussing the awe he had of a corpsman, who carried an enemy combatant on his back to receive complete medical care, because he understood the sanctity of life.

I tried to google that video for y’all but I can’t remember it’s name. It’s a great video, that inspires men to do not what is easy, but what is just.

Ive come across some right scumbags in my line of work. Still had to treat them and try to keep them alive.

Just part of it

I'm planning on growing some...medicinal plants...so if shtf y'all know who to hit up lol.

Hahaha, I've never used medicine, but I'm some could use the doctor's services

I also have some minor medical training as well, so i'm more than just a botanist

https://youtu.be/PT6cjp_zThw

Parting words to my cav unit. The most salient piece of medical advice I could give.

That’s amazing man.

Yeah, did the whole weekend warrior thing as a 68w for 6 years.

Thanks for being around to help us.

No problem. How are you set on tourniquets? 😉

one 😦

I liked the Grafkette, it also doubled as a constricting band for giving IVs. Always had one on my belt loop.

I’m just gonna stick with CATs

And use the IV start kit ones to constrict for IV

CAT or SOFTTW

Like a dozen at least

Yes, CoTCCC recommended TQs.

One CAT for you, that works if everyone's got their own, which they should. Doesn't hurt to have extra. Also, the CAT breaks down under exposure to sunlight, so be sure to pack them away.

Too many high-speed operators put them on their MOLLE vests and had them break during crunch time.

Well...you’re also supposed to replace TQ’s like, often

Ive got 4 for me anyway, staged and covered away from UV light and uniform to rub away at shit

Got bags and bags with other medical. It is my 4th job so i have to lol

I don’t have the money for CATs honestly.

I feel ya. $30 a go its hard to sell them because i cant mark em up from cost really

There are external reasons.

Im not upset about it, i make money doing training, the shit i sell isnt where i make the $$