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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

16 Jun 2020 13:37

People realize that cops killed more whites than blacks in 2019 right

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:37

No ticket gang rise up please

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

16 Jun 2020 13:38

I believe the motion on the table is that cops are, by and large, dicks. Do i have a second?

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 13:38

The counter Iā€™ve heard in response is that something something proportions

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:38

Pretty much ACAB. Idk why this turns I to a race thing. We should be uniting for police reform

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

16 Jun 2020 13:38

White, black, the only color that matters here is blue

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 13:38

> People realize that cops killed more whites than blacks in 2019 right @GRANITE mmmmm but thatā€™s ignoring uh, the fact that African Americans only make up 13% of the population, so they get shot a lot more per capital than white people

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

16 Jun 2020 13:38

And they commit 60% of the crime in America...

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 13:39

> I believe the motion on the table is that cops are, by and large, dicks. Do i have a second? @John Public I second that motion

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

16 Jun 2020 13:39 edited: 2020-06-16T13:39:21.424+00:00

@Crye Salesman seconds. Motion passed

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

16 Jun 2020 13:39

Next agenda item Bakinis Day time non beach clothes?

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:39

Third

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

16 Jun 2020 13:40

Largely due to gang violence caused by a lack of local opportunity. When the last shop in town closed because they kept getting robbed, it's really easy to start running drugs instead.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 13:40

> And they commit 60% of the crime in America... @GRANITE ahhhh...you mean cops *charge* them with more crime...and keep them impoverished by giving them fines for being poor? Almost like economic status is the contributing factor there

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:41

Itā€™s largely a cultural thing

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

16 Jun 2020 13:41

If you break down the demographics, you find that violent crime directly correlates with low socioeconomic status regardless of race. However when a particular race has been marginalized like that, they tend to become low SES

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 13:41

Or being charged with victimless crimes that are things that thousands of Americans do every day

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

16 Jun 2020 13:41

And the culture self perpetuates from there

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:41

Relying on government for help when the government keeps them impoverished

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:41

Never ending circle

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:42

Politician promises change, they vote for said politician, change never comes. Repeat repeat repeat

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 13:43

Yup. Then politicians enact rules that punish citizens for their economic status, and LE is all too happy to enforce it vigorously for their own personal financial gain

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 13:44

Politicians and LE go hand in hand. Both are bad and need serious change

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:06

Any onions on what happened in New Mexico

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:06

Opinions*

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:07

Havenā€™t followed very closely

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:12

You guys already talk about NK and SK acting up *again*

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:14

No

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:14

Posted article but not much discussion

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:17

I mean itā€™s nothing new. NK and SK are always doing dumb stuff. And NK likes to instigate

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:17

This is like some political tactic right?

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:17

Thereā€™s nothing new under the sun

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:17

> This is like some political tactic right? @Thatotherguy yes

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:17

Always is

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:18

Any ideas on what purpose may be

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[FL]Luckygunner264
(id: 558801481369649162)

16 Jun 2020 14:22

@Thatotherguy poke SK into starting the war. NK wants war so they can try and take over SK again and validate their stupid amounts of military spending

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:23

Who would win in that sitch

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:23

SK most likely

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:23

Like if neither had any foreign aid

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:23

Oh

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:24

Like if they Just duke it out with the resources they already got

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:24

Iā€™m not too sure. If itā€™s true NK has working nukes then NK. Otherwise it might be a stalemate with slight favorability to SK

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:25

Doesnā€™t NK have a bunch of artillery pointed at SK

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:25

Would they be able to pull off a surprise attack and blow up some tanks and fuel lines before sk arrives

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:25

Probably

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:27

If they did have aid would China help again?

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:28

The NK boys

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:29

If it was in their Inteests

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:31

If the NK wanted nukes coundnt they just buy some old Soviet stuff

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:33

Ehh idk if it works that way

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:38

Amphibian Stackk

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 14:38

But SK vs NK wouldnā€™t be that clear cut...and it wasnā€™t last time either

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

16 Jun 2020 14:41

NK needs stuff. They only have war to trade. So they threaten war to get aid. And for internal propaganda

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Mountain Man
(id: 717809480032583761)

16 Jun 2020 14:41

That what a said. More likely a stalemate or a long dragged out conflict

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

16 Jun 2020 14:41

The NK propaganda machine is 1984 level scary

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John Public
(id: 707071651086336071)

16 Jun 2020 14:43 edited: 2020-06-16T14:43:23.417+00:00

The whole nation is a prison camp with smaller, more restrictive prisons scattered between literally dirt eating peasants that are so chronically malnourished they are statistically getting shorter

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:48

Would that mean they would be able to get into small tunnels Americans canā€™t fit into

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 14:49

>implying awg doesnā€™t have a subterranean warfare school

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:50

If they get dwarf level they would have advantage in that style or would they not

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 14:51

ā€œStyleā€ hhhnnnngggg

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:51

By having war to trade does that mean they sell Merc? Or something else

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 14:54

NK Can't do warfare All their equipment is obsolete and their country is so starved they have no way to supply or feed their army. That's why they invested so heavily in nukes, because it's the only way for them to be a military threat. The only thing they have going for them is their mountain artillery which they've been building up since the 50s.

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:55

Why donā€™t they just invest in farming projects so they have food for soldiers

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 14:55

They essentially can launch one attack, before drones and the South Korean Air Force set the mountains on fire

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Potatoes O'Reilly
(id: 675849063920304138)

16 Jun 2020 14:56

Can SAMs deal with drones?

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:56

What if they shot the planes down with artillery

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 14:56

I'm unsure, if they wanted economic growth one of the first requirements is a populace that isn't dying of disease and starvation

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Potatoes O'Reilly
(id: 675849063920304138)

16 Jun 2020 14:57

@Thatotherguy šŸ˜

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:57

If they got enough volume maybe one or two would get hit

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 14:57

> What if they shot the planes down with artillery @Thatotherguy šŸ˜

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 14:58

SAMs will work on normal drones, but if the US gets involved SA-3s can't reliably lock onto F-35s art least while the aircraft is in front of them

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 14:59

Also the moment they turn on the radar to lock onto a fighter or bomber they are announcing their location to everyone

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 14:59

Coundnt they just force a bunch of their people to like make crops

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 14:59

Wild Weasels 2.0

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:00

They could

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

16 Jun 2020 15:00

They do. But forced production is never as efficient or fruitful

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:00

But you'll need to do that a couple years ahead of time to build stockpiles

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:00

And get efficient

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:01

They haven't started anything like that, so they can't get involved in a war

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:04

so they either have to have nukes or food

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:04

They seem to be deciding on nukes

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:04

They could have both

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:04

Yeah

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:05

But nukes are more important for the government technically

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:06

I guess

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:06

Detterent

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:06

If they got nukes to prevent being straight up invaded they can start to invest in other shit

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:06

Nobody fucks around when nuclear warfare is a possibility.

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:07

That's exactly what they did

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:09

Look at Saddam in the first gulf war, he had the fourth largest army in the world and it didn't matter. Then in 2003 we just walked in and removed him. If Iraq had actual nukes, that would never have been a possibility.

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Arctik
(id: 381638772976254977)

16 Jun 2020 15:09

In either scenario

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Dyld0mc
(id: 418613853346332692)

16 Jun 2020 15:10

yall underestimate the NK propaganda machine

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Dyld0mc
(id: 418613853346332692)

16 Jun 2020 15:12

those people are so brainwashed that they would fight to the death nomatter how malnourished. NK would just tell them to eat fallen soldiers for sustanence and they would probably do it

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Dyld0mc
(id: 418613853346332692)

16 Jun 2020 15:12 edited: 2020-06-16T15:13:12.005+00:00

who needs nukes when you have a cannibal army

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Dyld0mc
(id: 418613853346332692)

16 Jun 2020 15:12

SK would shit their pants

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:17

Can NK but nukes from China or something

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

16 Jun 2020 15:17

Or the crafting recipe

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Dyld0mc
(id: 418613853346332692)

16 Jun 2020 15:19

9TNT blocks

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

16 Jun 2020 15:19

I think it was something like steel blocks surrounding one tnt block

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Dyld0mc
(id: 418613853346332692)

16 Jun 2020 15:19

the real question is how do you tame a horse

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