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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 1]

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

29 Apr 2020 07:01

Agreed. Armslist is outdated. But it’s way more prevalent in rural western Ohio.

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Ballsdini
(id: 704892387616620575)

29 Apr 2020 11:16

Relatively new to modding glock triggers. Ordered just a double diamond connector and competition spring set from TGS (which will ship whenever the crown in CA wills it, apparently). Any pitfalls to watch out for with these? I'm just looking for less creep and a lighter pull. Don't want to turn my sidearm into a sideshow.

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

29 Apr 2020 11:21

That take it to a 3.5lbs?

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Ballsdini
(id: 704892387616620575)

29 Apr 2020 11:22

Spring set can do as low as 2.5 or up to 6 i think? A bunch of different options for like $15

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American_AF
(id: 524377682927157258)

29 Apr 2020 11:42

I’ve always used either completely custom or Ghost triggers. For $15 I’m gonna order one to try it out

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Red [neck] tech
(id: 343208983303028737)

29 Apr 2020 11:56

I don't go crazy with glock triggers I don't polish or shave anything and I try to stick with a factory 3.5 connector I've seen glocks with aftermarket trigger stuff so some weird things after they had some rounds on them

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Ballsdini
(id: 704892387616620575)

29 Apr 2020 12:04

Yea I'm generally wary of aftermarket triggers. Put one in my rifle and it was great...right up until it wasn't. Ended up having to finish a training day manually resetting the thing after every shot.

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Ballsdini
(id: 704892387616620575)

29 Apr 2020 13:43

Thoughts? Says it NIJ rated. https://uprisearmory.com/collections/ballistic-helmets/products/fast-nij-level-iiia-bulletproof-tactical-helmet

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yeetasaurus
(id: 704673859412164668)

29 Apr 2020 14:27

What brands and models does everyone like for sidearm lights?

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:28

I’m getting a Streamlight TLR-6 for mine

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:29

Yeah I was wondering who makes a good flashlight/laser combo for a pistol

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:30

@BugsyBaldwin streamlight I believe does depending on what it is

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 14:31

@BugsyBaldwin - Don't get wrapped up in the laser craze, it is a Hollywood gimmick. You will waste valuable life saving micro-seconds looking for a little red light in shitty conditions instead of focusing on the threat theatre. By the time you acquire where your beam is you have two in your chest and one in your head.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:32

True I just figured it would be nice to have the option for it

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 14:33

@BugsyBaldwin - Just get the flashlight, trust me.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:33

10-4

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:35

I’m wouldn’t mind getting my slide milled for a red dot so I could still have my irons as well

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 14:37

@[MS] Foxtrot795 - I just can't wrap my head around any red dot lasting a long time riding a slide back and forth so violently. That kind of abrupt movement can't bode well for the red Dot's longevity.

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:40

@[VA] JediComms from my understanding, they’re designed to hold zero even under violent hits like rapid fire situations as long as it’s a decent brand like Vortex or Holosun. I almost bought a Vortex Venom for my Shield, but talked myself out of it so I could finish my AR

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:41

The cable for the light isn’t on it anymore. I went back to a regular end cap and added 45 degree brackets for my irons

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:44

Then here’s the engravings I had done on it by mine and @yeetasaurus local gun shop.

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 14:44

@[MS] Foxtrot795 - The design might be good on paper but until they're been run hard over an extended period of time, I dunno. Take for example the anti-dive forks on Muscle and Sportbikes from the early 80s. Looking at the engineering diagrams and such, they worked great on paper. When they actually hit the streets none of them made a different and the manufacturers abandoned the effort after only a few model years.

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:46

Right. I can definitely see that side of the things. I do TONS of research and read reviews before I buy things like that though. If there’s not a torture test video on it, I won’t even look at it twice.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:47

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:47

One rifle I have yet to dress up at all but it works so well just bare bones

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:48

That’s like my truck. Why on EARTH GM went away from rack and pinions and did idler and pitman arms in the OBS trucks I’ll never understand. Good idea on paper, horrible from a practical standpoint.

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 14:49

@BugsyBaldwin - SKS? What stock is that?

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:49

VZ58 in 7.62x39

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:49

Czech Small Arms

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 14:50

@BugsyBaldwin - The bolt is very SKS like.

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 14:50

Okay I’m a little late here and I’m sorry but I fucking HATE lasers

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 14:50 edited: 2020-04-29T14:51:06.092+00:00

Unless they’re IR lasers(sometimes), but I still hate lasers

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 14:52

That’s how mine was. I bought it as a basic rifle and just built off the bones of it. I’ve always been a fan of the M&P series and been a S&W guy. I watched a meltdown video from Iraqveteran8888 on the M&P-15 and it made it to 820 rounds of full auto fire, handguard on fire, melting off and everything, and the only reason it stopped is the gas tube eroded, but could still be fired like a bolt action. Between that and the price, I was sold on it.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:53

Basically the VZ58 is a beefed up cross between the gewer43 the stg44 and AK47

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:54

In full auto its 800 rpm and fairly lightweight and extremely durable and reliable

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 14:55

@BugsyBaldwin - How is the accuracy? SKS will outshoot an AK for accuracy but has shortcomings in other areas.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 14:59

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 15:01

@[VA] JediComms it's extremely accurate for being a combat rifle designed for combat at 300 yards I can put one on top of the other at 100 yards with Iron sights

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:02

Holy fuck

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:03

I’m so confused here but it looks so nice

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:04

I'd like to add 1-2 more TQs.

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:04

Need shit for comms. Anything else I should add?

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 15:04

So, question. Here soon, I’m starting on an AR-10 and I need recommendations on caliber. I’m leaning towards a .308, but haven’t decided yet

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 15:05

@bum this patch 😂 @yeetasaurus got them for me, him, and whoever else in our little group gets a carrier next

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:05

😂😂😂😂😂

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:05

I need that

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 15:06

As everyone in our group gets a carrier, they get this patch and I recommend their blood type patch very highly

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:06

Everyone knows the patches are the most important part of the carrier

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 15:06

Bingo

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:06

I got my blood type on mine already

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:07

How many TQs yall have?

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:08

4

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:08

On your carrier?

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:08

Do you have them all on the same side?

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:08

1 carrier 1 belt 2 pack

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:08

I need a belt and a decent holster

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 15:08

@[MS] Foxtrot795 - 7.62NATO.......go with the most commonly used NATO cartridge in the .30 calibre category. In a SHTF scenario you have better odds of finding it.

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:08

Any good sauces?

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:09

I heard trex arms makes a decent holster

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:09

Anyone have experience with the Canik TP9?

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:09

Leaddevil or wilder tactical

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 15:10

@[VA] JediComms that was my second option. Originally I was going to go with 6.5 creedmoor, but decided against it due to price per round and availability in a SHTF situation

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:11

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:11

Damn

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:12

1 belt 1 in the drop ifak and 2 in the pack

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:12

Where did you get your belt from?

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:12

Hsgi

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:13

Do you run side plates

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:13

Negative

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:13

Figured

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:13

I keep my sides minimal for faster movement.

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:14

I hated them back In the day.

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bum
(id: 417302446990426123)

29 Apr 2020 15:14

Same

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[VA] JediComms
(id: 704476636753559632)

29 Apr 2020 15:14

@[MS] Foxtrot795 - Fun guns can be in exotic calibres but if you plan to run and gun one should stick with .22lr, 9mm, 5.56NATO, 7.62NATO, 7.62AK, 7.62Mosin, and 12GA. These are by far the most widely used/available.

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 15:16

Exactly why my 15 is 5.56NATO. Plenty of opportunity for finding rounds

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 15:33

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 15:33

My HK SL8-4 has an AR15 magwell to make it more viable for shtf

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 15:33

And my AR180 also is 556 and takes ar15 mags

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 15:33

I also have an AR102

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

29 Apr 2020 15:36

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:37

Run that optic further up the rail.

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:38

Also I don’t see back up irons.

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[VA]two40bravo
(id: 675519348441481258)

29 Apr 2020 15:38

Running the optic further up the rail will give you more peripheral vision which is a must.

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[MS] Foxtrot795
(id: 703635117901611090)

29 Apr 2020 15:39

I personally would run a reflex sight, but that’s just my preference. I prefer two eye sight pictures

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

29 Apr 2020 15:55

@Gang gang I'm in love with my TP9

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:56

Yeah dude? I was looking into either that or a VP9 until I saw that the VP is like 3x as expensive

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

29 Apr 2020 15:56

I actually wouldn’t mind a TP9.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

29 Apr 2020 15:56

I would 100% get the TP9 over the VP9. The quality is great, haven't had a single damn issue. Feeds great, and the trigger is hands down the best stock striker fire trigger I've ever used.

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:57

I desperately need a first gun, thankfully I can buy wholesale from my father in jersey because of his store

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:57

How long have you had it?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

29 Apr 2020 15:57

A year now.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

29 Apr 2020 15:57

They're really well priced, and it's the same company that makes the match triggers for the Walther PPQs

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:57

I just have to find a range around here that has one in stock then

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

29 Apr 2020 15:58

You can get the TP9 SFX with a red dot ordered to your nearest gun shop for like 800 bucks.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

29 Apr 2020 15:58

I kept the red dot off though because I like the irons. But I think I'm gonna put it on my glock once I get it drilled out

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

29 Apr 2020 15:58

The vp9 is a fantastic pistol, especially for the price. Best ergonomics out of anything available and the stock trigger is only matched by the ppq

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

29 Apr 2020 15:59

That being said I'd suggest a g19 as a first pistol

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Gang gang
(id: 501877829693341696)

29 Apr 2020 15:59

I can get a Tp9SF for $246 rignt now

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

29 Apr 2020 15:59

No way, that cheap?

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