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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 00:54

Oh sweet

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bobandy
(id: 275102441807151104)

15 Jun 2020 00:55

Dont spread it around, dont want it blowing up

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 01:00

looks like the coupon doesn't work even for the keymod one

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bobandy
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15 Jun 2020 01:00

Damn

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Confused
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15 Jun 2020 01:00

may have been single use

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bobandy
(id: 275102441807151104)

15 Jun 2020 01:01

Idk, they were passing em out at a training event a while back

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bobandy
(id: 275102441807151104)

15 Jun 2020 01:01

I havent used it

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 01:01

Ahh okay. Probably expired then. Usually those will last a month or so

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bobandy
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15 Jun 2020 01:02

🇫

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

15 Jun 2020 01:14

So, if I have a rifle length gas system, can I use a heavy carbine length buffer

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 01:16

Buffer weight is a bandaid for overgassed systems. Proper gassing depends on a few factors such as gas port size, barrel length, and gas system length. The two ways to properly fix the issue is to either have a properly sized gas port, or a quality adjustable gas block. Either one should be paired with a standard weight buffer.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 01:45

@Potatoes O'Reilly bcm gunfighter

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 01:52

if i had to guess its the mod 3

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 01:53

i really like mine its really grippy and the egros are great

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 01:53

opening the door on it is a 2 handed job tho its really stiff

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 01:56

none of my lgs carry anything bcm

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 01:56

but what can you do

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:00

ya most lgs dont carry bcm wich is a bummer

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:01

but any more they are never even in stock so what can a guy do

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:02

ya they normally still dont which sucks

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:14

I've got one with a bcm mod 3 grip on it. The grip angle is slightly more vertical than the magpul moe grip. The top part is slightly skinnier but it has more of a palm swell than the moe. The moe is blockier feeling while the mod 3 is a bit more rounded, and not quite as long from the butt to muzzle direction. The moe has a grippier texture but the mod 3 is more ergonomic.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:15

The mod3 also has a swinging door with a removable rubber insert while the moe just has a removable bottom. The mod3 has a shelf that extends over the trigger guard to keep your finger from rubbing against the gap between a normal grip and the trigger guard

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:17

Overall I'd say I prefer the bcm as it's more conducive to squared off shooting as the grip is even more vertical than the magpul, and a good bit more ergonomic. It's also slightly heavier though, and not nearly as grippy. Your hand won't slip off of either, but I'd say the magpul lends itself better to gloved shooting than the bcm

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:21

Magpul is basically the new a2 grip. It does its job well with no frills, and most people who shoot on a two way range and have a choice pick it because it's what everyone else uses

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:21

Can't go wrong with one but you may find ones you like better

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Cannibal1-1
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15 Jun 2020 02:21 edited: 2020-06-15T02:21:59.815+00:00

Grips are an area up entirely to user, the only rules to go by are a straighter grip is more comfortable in a squared off stance and a more angled one makes a bladed stance easier

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

15 Jun 2020 02:22

As a meaty boi myself I find an A2 grip horrendously narrow

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:23 edited: 2020-06-15T02:23:20.864+00:00

If the magpul moe feels too small for you, the bcm mod3 will definitely feel too small. Not as thin as a2, but slightly smaller than the moe

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

15 Jun 2020 02:26

As far as I know not many companies make a good thicc grip

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:29

Grab all the other pieces of an AR.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:29

And you can always bubba it up with some grip tape or something.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:30

Or something else. Maybe you can even carve out a big fat wood one, ha ha.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:30

Academy sports carries magpul products. They're probably out of stock, but you can try to see how well it fits your hand if they have it.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:31

Basically everything gun related is sold out around me

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:31

>tfw I got briefly excited at a pawn shop with a Ruger AR pistol >it was chambered in .350 Legend

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:32

Good thing you missed it then, ruger ar's are garbo

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:33

I mean, I'm still debating on whether or not to run up a Sig Rattler build or if I should locate some alternative.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:33

Ruger makes okay rimfire and precision rifles but their ar's are bad and their centerfire pistols are horrible

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:34

They make some pretty decent rimfire competition pistols though

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:34

Gotcha. Can you elaborate on why they're bad?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:35

Poor quality. They break during classes very often

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:35

Personal experience as a user or an instructor?

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:35

Or a fellow student?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:36

Watching at least one ruger, Taurus, and Springfield fail at every class I've attended if there's a decent number of people. Usually it's fixable but sometimes it's not. When it's a revolver, they're usually shit out of luck.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:38

*when your Taurus revolver jams and you can't open the cylinder because there's a case lodged in it* What? Impossible, revolvers can't jam!

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:38

I've heard plenty about Taurus, but not much about Ruger or Springfield.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:38

At least in terms of guns consistently failing.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:38

Like, sure, Springfield's a cuck and whatnot, but still.

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:39

I'm pretty sure Taurus makes their guns for the market of their home country

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:39

that being something you can probably get a few bullets out of before having to dump it in the local body of water

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:40

for a good price

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:40

Good to go: Glock H&K Sig CZ M&P Walther Probably a few others I'm missing depending on the model

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:41

Nope.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

15 Jun 2020 02:41

I'm hearing nice things about one of their semi-autos, but that's about it.

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Cacoethes
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15 Jun 2020 02:41

And I can't tell if it's the usual "I fired three magazines in one year, I'm an expert now" kinda guys, or if it's legit.

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:41

Taurus makes cheap guns that brazilian gangsters can do a hit with before throwing it away

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:42

Also gotta remember that you can't trust "gun guys" and gun store clerks. They might be a decent shot but they've never studied firearms or gotten their guns in dirt, mud, or sand.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:43

bro i shoot in desert dirt

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:43

*"I love my Springfield XD that I carry in a SERPA. 69,000 rounds without a single failure. Haven't even cleaned it."*

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:43

shits gets in fucking every thing

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:44

If anyone says "works for me," run

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:44

imagine thinking that any roller delayed blowback guns would be good every day guns

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:44

hold up they are nice actions

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:45

oh they're sexy guns

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:45

hell ya they are

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:45

dirty af tho

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:45

they also tend to be complex guns

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:45

yes they are

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:45

but for the most pary reliable too

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:45

and if one of the little pieces breaks during any time you can't get it fixed you have a club

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«grëžgöv»
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15 Jun 2020 02:46

I think the mp5 is a sexy gun, just not something I would want to have as my every day carry

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:46

that is a large af carry bud

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:46

Used to have a ptr91. It was pretty fun. Actually very simple to disassemble and wouldn't quit, but it's also a 1.5 moa 308 and weighs 9 pounds so...

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:46

its bad on that point alone

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:46

not as in a carry in this setting

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:46

i have a ptr91 and i love it

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

15 Jun 2020 02:47

i a am going to take it on a hog hunt corona permitting in florida next year

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«grëžgöv»
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15 Jun 2020 02:47

but like those people who say they would use it as their only gun during some sort of engagement or survival situation

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Confused
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15 Jun 2020 02:48 edited: 2020-06-15T02:48:18.362+00:00

It would be serviceable. Not optimal but not obsolescent, as long as you've got the manual of arms down.

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«grëžgöv»
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15 Jun 2020 02:48

it's better then nothing

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Cacoethes
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15 Jun 2020 02:48

It's a lot better than nothing, that's for sure.

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«grëžgöv»
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15 Jun 2020 02:48 edited: 2020-06-15T02:49:12.031+00:00

but honestly if I was forced to have one gun I would choose a direct blowback

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:48

Now surviving with just a bolt action is pretty iffy

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:49

the roller delay blowback is pretty solid

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:49 edited: 2020-06-15T02:49:50.407+00:00

bolt action is solid but slow af it really depends on how you are going to survive

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Confused
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15 Jun 2020 02:50

Depending on the situation I'd either pick a good ar15, or a glock and a good kydex holster if you're not allowed to just tote a rifle around

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:51

https://youtu.be/pC4Gqvd7T1s

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:51

I'm sure some people would still go into battle with a garbage rod

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:51

I mean mosin

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:52

they would maybe fire once before getting slotted, but A for effort

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:52

They're basically obsolete except for very specific situations, in which case they're precision long range guns. Mosins aren't sniper rifles, they fire about minute of ups truck

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:52

i have a p80 and an ar pistol i would use

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:53

infantry bolt actions only are effective if you're in a fireing line with them

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Mechromansir
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15 Jun 2020 02:53

so obsolete

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:53

oh, and only if your enemy is doing the same

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:53

Yeah lol

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:53

Firing line, meet CAS

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

15 Jun 2020 02:53

Brrrrrt

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Sparrow
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15 Jun 2020 02:55

Bolt-action is better than nothing... but to compare it with any modern semi-auto rifle, you'd have to be a tard.

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«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

15 Jun 2020 02:55

the power of the mosin came from there being endless waves of russians on a battle field weilding them

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