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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

04 Jan 2021 18:43

Are they likely to win it?

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

04 Jan 2021 18:43

I don’t think so

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

04 Jan 2021 18:43

But massive implications if they do

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

04 Jan 2021 18:43

Classifying as a security would require much more regulatory disclosures

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

04 Jan 2021 18:45

SEC tryna flex on crypto, it’s been shot down before but I think in this case the dollar backing complicates things a bit

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

04 Jan 2021 18:49

interesting

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

04 Jan 2021 18:52

XRP shills seem pretty confident that they will be fine (from this google doc getting passed around)

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

04 Jan 2021 18:52

numerous claims about how they actually want the lawsuit to get Regulatory Clarity 🤷‍♂️

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

04 Jan 2021 18:56

but yeah imma look into it a bit more, thanks for the info 👍

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 09:35 edited: 2021-01-05T10:34:20.581+00:00

Yeah that’s an interesting theory- in a way they are not wrong as the SEC regulations ideally are put in place for consumer protection- however from everything I’ve read it would be catastrophic for valuation since at that point Ripple would be guilty of selling unregistered securities to unqualified investors- a felony. By extension this would open up exchanges that sold XRP to liability. One other thing to note is the former head of the SEC, Clayton, is notoriously anti crypto and probably pushed for this lawsuit. He announced his resignation at the end of 2020, so perhaps the new guy, Piwowar, will be more amenable.

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 09:38 edited: 2021-01-05T10:02:12.485+00:00

Here’s him discussing the exact issue in a 2018 lecture- see at about 30 minutes in, and again at 49 minutes.

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 09:38

https://youtu.be/gMHxoKpw0vE

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 10:45 edited: 2021-01-05T10:47:17.613+00:00

One thing that Piwowar does seem more friendly to is the idea of a Bitcoin ETF, which would open up the crypto market to be traded on the exchange. If a fund like that got approved, we’re probably strapping back onto an even bigger rocket 🚀📈

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

05 Jan 2021 10:58

oh wow I didn't know about him being on-board with a Bitcoin ETF, we'll see where that goes. I guess in the short term for the XRP case, the fact that Piwowar would take over, would make their chances of surviving the case better, and thus some possible short term gains to be made? However, from what i've read at least, this idea of going into XRP for the long term and that it hits 2k in 2-9 years, I just can't see it happening lol

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

05 Jan 2021 11:00

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15rLzU8yufnVBnXLVdc8c_tIcgyomCoJe/view this is the google doc, the guy writing it is obviously more on the optimistic side and most certainly is holding XRP but it makes an interesting case nonetheless

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 11:01

Personally I think ripple is shady and XRP is a shitcoin but I’m also not really familiar with it from anything more than a legal aspect. I’ll give the article a read though.

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

05 Jan 2021 11:04

yeah you're probably right lol

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 11:04

The reason why I’m bullish on bitcoin is because the big financial institutions are betting on it- im not sure how much room that leaves for smaller alts like XRP- it could be that a rising tide lifts all boats, or smaller coins like XRP that have relied a lot on marketing could be washed out.

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coolhandluke
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05 Jan 2021 11:22 edited: 2021-01-05T11:40:16.754+00:00

Ok having given that doc a precursory read, a couple thoughts;

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 11:34 edited: 2021-01-05T11:50:05.592+00:00

A) although the idea of the transaction limit slowing down the upward scale of Bitcoin adoption isn’t without merit, I think other coins like BCH or BSV have done a better job addressing that issue and are already way ahead of XRP. B) the idea that the IMF would adopt XRP as a replacement reserve currency, displacing the Dollar, euro, yuan, yen, the pound, etc is pretty laughable. If anything, and they went that way, the IMF would likely make their own coin. And that is the definition of a long play- if the dollar is displaced by crypto we’re looking at a 20-50 year time line on the most generous estimates. C)If we’re talking about displacing the dollar, I think the yuan or the euro are wayyyy more likely candidates- any crypto would have to surpass them, as well as the 8 other reserve currencies currently recognized by the IMF. It’s a pipe dream and stuff like this makes me question the intelligence/agenda of XRP “shills” when they make these pie in the sky predictions and rely on drawing tenuous connections between ripple executives and the IMF reps. D) I also think it’s silly that to think that BTC, with infinitely more valuable than XRP, wouldn’t be able to patch in quantum computing protections but somehow XRP would, even though neither technology has been invented yet.

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

05 Jan 2021 11:39 edited: 2021-01-05T11:51:19.493+00:00

Then again, at the end of the day, it’s 23 cents so if you want to buy some and hope for this scenario, go for it. But just be aware that it’s a lottery ticket- big big payout but you’ll probably never cash. If you’re like me you’ve spent hundreds of dollars on poor decisions, nights out, food, video games, or just random shit so I can’t blame anybody who puts a few hundred into this and just hopes for the best.

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

05 Jan 2021 11:57

yeah I agree the long term shit in the document is borderline insanity lol, pretty much the same insane theories you see on the XRP schizo threads, i was mainly reading it for stuff on the court case specifically

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Giuseppe
(id: 686387866603094126)

05 Jan 2021 11:58

no way i would be looking to hold hoping for this sequence of events

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

05 Jan 2021 11:59

All the big banks are treating crypto as insurance policies. Invest $10,000 in every shitcoin and youll eventually even out

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

05 Jan 2021 20:17

https://coinbase.com/earn/xlm/invite/r605wcz8

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

05 Jan 2021 20:18

Let’s get some free XLM bros

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

06 Jan 2021 00:51

Yeah I’ll do this when back at computer, saw these earlier, seems like a good way to earn some free coin

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

06 Jan 2021 00:55 edited: 2021-01-06T00:58:11.293+00:00

traded lrc and xml into bch. will buy back into lrc soon.

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TexanGroyper
(id: 259519713523007488)

06 Jan 2021 00:56

Did yall see panther den sold his assets today bc of tomorrow

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

06 Jan 2021 00:57

idiot lmao

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TexanGroyper
(id: 259519713523007488)

06 Jan 2021 00:58

I facepalmed so hard. I cant imagine selling now

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BasedBurger
(id: 329801866084876289)

06 Jan 2021 01:03

I haven’t invested yet

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 01:06

im holding only link

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TexanGroyper
(id: 259519713523007488)

06 Jan 2021 01:07

.025 btc as of rn

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 01:08

nice

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

06 Jan 2021 01:27

based i honestly want to dump into it the moment it goes back down to $12

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 01:27

i wanna sell at $15

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 01:27

thatll be a really nice profit - then buy back at around 10-12

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

06 Jan 2021 02:47

https://coinbase.com/earn/xlm/invite/6mvycnrq smore free xlm

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 03:13

https://coinbase.com/earn/xlm/invite/zjq0k735

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 03:13

even more free xlm

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coolhandluke
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06 Jan 2021 03:14 edited: 2021-01-06T03:15:14.758+00:00

some free COMP too since were shilling codes lol:

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coolhandluke
(id: 509916414681808908)

06 Jan 2021 03:15 edited: 2021-01-06T03:16:07.791+00:00

https://coinbase.com/earn/comp/invite/vwkm86nd

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 03:15

yo i too can give some free comp

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 03:15

https://coinbase.com/earn/comp/invite/2hxz703b

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 03:16

:winning:

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

06 Jan 2021 03:32

https://coinbase.com/earn/comp/invite/7p409fry

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

06 Jan 2021 03:34

Comp referral for 4 people, like this if you use the link https://coinbase.com/earn/comp/invite/7t13cyb9

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

06 Jan 2021 03:35

i only have one claim of xlm

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

06 Jan 2021 03:37

XLM link 2 referral slots left, like if you used so everyone knows https://coinbase.com/earn/xlm/invite/qpb6mvrs

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

06 Jan 2021 03:42

Last one. BAND referral link ($10) 4 slots left, like if used thanks! https://coinbase.com/earn/band/invite/v4y2hj8c

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 04:08

lmao

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

06 Jan 2021 14:06

link ftw $20 imminent

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Tactical Nuke
(id: 321128986308771841)

06 Jan 2021 15:39

Doge $1 imminent

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

07 Jan 2021 12:01

$TH looking fucking GOOD in premarket

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UmphLov
(id: 321901496666947584)

11 Jan 2021 05:18

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UmphLov
(id: 321901496666947584)

11 Jan 2021 05:19

Anyone else get this on binance?

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R4v3nous
(id: 235988241692622850)

12 Jan 2021 09:43

Isn't Binance illegal in US

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

12 Jan 2021 12:22

It is

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TexanGroyper
(id: 259519713523007488)

12 Jan 2021 13:36

Wait why

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UmphLov
(id: 321901496666947584)

12 Jan 2021 14:26

Ya I didn't know until it was too late and I was teyna sell higg

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UmphLov
(id: 321901496666947584)

12 Jan 2021 14:26

Tryna sell high**

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R4v3nous
(id: 235988241692622850)

12 Jan 2021 15:50

coinbase is what people use

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

12 Jan 2021 15:51

^

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

12 Jan 2021 15:51

just use coinbase and some wallets

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reizei
(id: 415252385007665152)

12 Jan 2021 15:52

exodus and metamask seem cool

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R4v3nous
(id: 235988241692622850)

12 Jan 2021 16:12

Makes sense

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R4v3nous
(id: 235988241692622850)

12 Jan 2021 16:12

All the people mined early on and forget their password

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baby bonnet
(id: 432995728072245249)

12 Jan 2021 19:44

What cheap crypto should I buy?

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:45

Litecoin

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baby bonnet
(id: 432995728072245249)

12 Jan 2021 19:45

Okay

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:46

why?

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baby bonnet
(id: 432995728072245249)

12 Jan 2021 19:47

Because I want to get rich

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:47

no why litecoin

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:48

Cheap compared to last spike and low transaction fees compared to bitcoin, isn’t a new shitcoin either its the little cool brother of bitcoin

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:48

Its the silver to the gold

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baby bonnet
(id: 432995728072245249)

12 Jan 2021 19:49

I was going to invest in it just because some autist on discord told me to but that makes sense

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:49

Idk man overall it looks like a neat package 📦

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:49

Bitcoin has me priced out

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:49

lmao sorry for ruining that for you

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:49

yeah that makes sense

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:50

Idk if monero is still around but that shit was epic

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:50

Completely anonymous but its been a year or two since i read up on it

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baby bonnet
(id: 432995728072245249)

12 Jan 2021 19:50

I'm too scared to invest in Bitcoin right now. I feel like it's about to crash

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:50

Dont

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:51

Bitcoin is useless but not in the way you think it is

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:51

Ill say high transaction fees

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:51

But how much is a wire transfer at the bank?

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:52

I would use bitcoin for secure transactions that involve $500+ that is my use case

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:52

How much are tx fees rn like $20?

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:53

Messed up damn

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:53

has anyone used any auto trader with crypto?

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:53

Sounds like vegas slots on auto fuck that

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:53

Never have to be clear

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:54

idk i was recommended wealthybot.io

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InfluentialGroyper
(id: 775188213958574101)

12 Jan 2021 19:54

Trump speaks in 5 but he is fashionably late catch him on rsbn on youtube

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:54

seems kinda sketchy do so i wouldn't use it for any long periods

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:57

but aren't there algorithms that are recognized to generally have a higher chance of making a profit with fiat? that should work with crypto too

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GroypNord
(id: 741746857402957866)

12 Jan 2021 19:57

i know too little about it to tell though

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tj
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12 Jan 2021 22:40

finance

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