Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 4]

So back to the fact that it's purely due to poor assembly rather than poor quality materials, correct?

Bad quality control.

Sure, mil-spec is mil-spec, but how well do companies maintain that standard?

For PSA and BCA, they don’t do it nearly as well.

You’re not paying for a name.

You’re paying for better, tighter tolerances.

Things like checking every single part instead of batch checking (checking one of every batch)

Deburring the milling heads on the machines to keep them more precise.

All of that plays a factor.

AIM BCGs worth a damn?

But what about using just stripped PSA parts abd using Higher end internals, like we used to do with sleeper drag cars?

I would not do that.

Again, even lower receivers can have specification problems.

Metallurgy isn’t that big of a deal but it can still apply.

Got. Ya, makes sense.

https://youtu.be/j3gCjIHrIz4

I'm sure a PSA barrel would be perfectly fine, as they are hard steel blanks that they finish out.

@Soulraiser

Doing my first build, i have a mossberg right now.

That the bolt you were asking about?

> Doing my first build, i have a mossberg right now. @[NC]sampson Whatcha thinking for parts?

Kida impressed with this, Colt 6920 trooper, Strike eagle 1-6, iwi ma855.

Not the exact same BCG, I imagine mostly the same. https://aimsurplus.com/aim-ar15-m16-h4x-223-5-56-9310-mpi-bolt-carrier-group/?mc_cid=a7038981c5&mc_eid=d3687e4469

250 yard group

Dont know trying to decide. Reading up right now, probably looking to drop at most around 1k basic.

Colt is a good brand

> Dont know trying to decide. Reading up right now, probably looking to drop at most around 1k basic. @[NC]sampson @Lucky Texan

For that price @[NC]sampson unless you're really intent on building one yourself, from my experience an M&P15 would probably fit. Might not be "battle ready" but you'll be able to learn the rifle and modify what you need to modify and swap weak points etc etc.

Well i owned an M&P and i hated it, bought my mossberg for that reason and have been happy since, but im strictly building one this time

@Soulraiser You can build a good rifle for $1,000.

Also I saw spartan armor, anyone have any suggestions?

M&P is good to go in my experience, my sport 2 beater is going on 6k of sterl

Steel

Hence why I said unless you're intent on building one.

Let me find my build list. Goes for ~$1,050 with a Holosun.

Personal AR Build Upper Receiver - BCM Stripped Upper Receiver (Blemished) Comes with parts. $59.95 - Yankee Hill Machine 16" 5.56 Barrel Assembly (Includes gas tube, flash hider, crush washer, and gas block) 1:7 Twist $189.00 - Forward Controls Design 15" RHF MLOK Handguard $204.25 - Geissele Automatics BCG 5.56 $140 Strike Industries Arch Charging Handle $31.95 Holosun 403B $169.99 Upper Total: $795 Lower Receiver - Aero Precision M4EI Stripped Lower Receiver $89 DSG Arms Lower Completion Kit (Includes full LPK, Grip, and Buffer Assembly) $150 Lower Total: $240

@LoudPillsmy M&P constantly had problems. But then again you can always get an lemon.

I also have experience with holosun on my sport 2, also really good for the price.

@[NC]sampson mine hasnt gave me a single issue and ive wrecked my atv with it strapped to the front 3 times.

As he said, lemons are possible.

But for 500$ you cant expect great qc

Especially considering one could be made right before they deburred a bit, and one right after.

Yeah, had to be a lemon. lol That yankee hill barrel actually worth a damn? The price was kinda throwing me for a loop with what it came with. I'm currently looking at an aero 16" barrel.

aero's barrels, I think made by a sister company ballistic advantage, are okay. They'll get around 1.5-2 moa if I remember right, which compared to any other rifle from the era of the m16 is actually fantastic.

Any clue how much the 20in one is, i have a 16 on my mossberg?

Would I be wasting my money to put a BCM lower parts kit in an ar-15?

lower parts kits are all basically the same outside of triggers. Which can vary greatly. I'm just using a basic ass anderson parts kit and swapping the grip because it feels like holding a cactus. I don't intend on doing any crazy long range shooting to where that slight accuracy is going to make a difference. Especially if it's in a SHTF situation.

> Would I be wasting my money to put a BCM lower parts kit in an ar-15? @Deleted User Do itttt

> lower parts kits are all basically the same outside of triggers. Which can vary greatly. I'm just using a basic ass anderson parts kit and swapping the grip because it feels like holding a cactus. I don't intend on doing any crazy long range shooting to where that slight accuracy is going to make a difference. Especially if it's in a SHTF situation. @Soulraiser There are inherent differences between the quality control and trigger weight of lower parts. Most do contain the same springs and are supposed to be made to the same spec, but that does not mean that al are help to the same scrutiny.

Oh you said BCM not BCA... lmao

personally got the geissele ultra lower parts kit for the flex, though the maritime bolt catch is awesome, won't be going back to milspec

while I'd say it's hard to fuck up stuff like detents and springs, some companies manage to. I've read dozens of reviews on lower parts kits on brownells and whatnot where people got rusted out detent springs and other useless junk in their kits

I can see that. I figure, on your first one at bare minimum, you're going to lose a spring anyways. Might as well be a cheap one. As long as it isn't rusted out.. Idk how that even happens in that situation.

G$?

I’d like my parts before 2022 thnx

I didn't order it directly from them

I’m memeing

Dudes are still waiting on ordered from Black Friday

I got a trial from bdu, ordered my shit, and immediately canceled

yeah they're slow af lol

They fucked up is all I can think and ruined a couple batches during anodizing

Sionics, G$ or colt hand select are what I use for LPK’s. BCM is a good choice too

I didn't realize BCM still had stock. Putting together a parts list on there right now.

@Soulraiser some.

@INNATRUCK Since you gave me the go-ahead

Delete this

Nah

Not bad so far

Needs a second coat but I like

@INNATRUCK lol nostalgia

Hmm actually looks like a prebuilt BCM upper is out of my price range

I'm saving up for one when I come back to the states

Idk if this is a doable since I've never read the punisher but it might be cool to spray something that only real fans would know in order to set yourself apart from every other loser who uses the symbol without actually knowing anything about it

@Confused He is, in way

He's using the 80's style comic Punisher logo

@Confused from chat last night

Oh god oh fuck **STOP**

No

This is the wrong subsection for this, and also, no. 😂

Maximum cringe engaged

I want ahegao pmags

So looking for a pc that will take small sapi plates for under $200 any suggestions?

@[TX]TexasPatriot0930 it's gear, doesn't it belong in armory?

No @Krusk, that’s a meme

@BigIglooArmorer used JPC

Where would you find a used jpc?

Tacswap or arfcom, or Facebook gear groups

You miiight be able to get a used jpc for 200. They tend to go for around 250

Just keep an eye out

I’ve seen them lower than 200 haha, but they go fast

Are there any other brands that will take Dali’s?

Especially for a medium in multicam

Sapi’s**

Almost everything takes SAPI cut, unless it specifically designed otherwise.