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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 19:23

@[CA] SoyBoi magnifiers do have to be zeroed. And un zeroed magnifiers can throw you several MOA. and some of the mounts don’t really work

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JackLAXXX
(id: 351251101745676300)

07 May 2020 19:52

> Also is the barrel and handguard aero, or something that store is claiming as their own? @Crye Salesman The barrel and handguard are not aero, let me get the specs here in a minute or two

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

07 May 2020 20:31 edited: 2020-05-07T20:31:24.904+00:00

Eh using my magnifiers I never had any issues . All I did was zero my red dot and toss a magnifier on and it was fine

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

07 May 2020 20:54

What magnifier/red dot combo would y'all recommend? Not against trying something new.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 20:57

Depends on your budget? If you want cost efficient, AT3 makes a combo for like 200-300 I think? It's been alright for me. If you don't care about price, can't go wrong with EO Tech

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 20:57

> Eh using my magnifiers I never had any issues . All I did was zero my red dot and toss a magnifier on and it was fine @TacticalBeard that’s gonna be a naw Chief. Chuck p and Aaron Cowan would disagree

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

07 May 2020 21:07

Care to link sources ?

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

07 May 2020 21:14 edited: 2020-05-07T21:20:00.746+00:00

@Soulraiser the smaller the dot the better so somthing like the 1 MOA dot of the eotech or Leupolds new red dot would be ideal. I liked the MRO but my astigmatism favored the eotech so I sold the 2MOA MRO. Aimpont is another gold standard red dot but I personally like the wide objective lense of the MRO way more than the aimpoints

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:19

https://youtu.be/F70QAoDW9dU

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

07 May 2020 21:20

Jesus christ @TacticalBeard ; idk if I want to spend $1k on an optic... Definitely looking a little more budget friendly than that. That said, every eotech I've ever used was the most blurry SOB that made the optic borderline unusable. I'll have to do more research on this magnifier thing..

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:20

https://youtu.be/fryJ4DQ0Lxc

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 21:24

I need to train.

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

07 May 2020 21:26

@Soulraiser sounds like you have astigmatism and need to avoide red dots and holosights all together

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

07 May 2020 21:28

I've never had issues with any other red dots. Just eotech. My vision is actually quite a bit better than average.

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Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

07 May 2020 21:31

Thinking I'll just stick to grabbing a vortex spitfire 3x. Price just makes sense and I've had amazing luck with them in the past. I'll just have to mount my irons canted.

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

07 May 2020 21:37 edited: 2020-05-07T21:42:41.153+00:00

@Crye Salesman I feel like an idiot lol yes i zero my red dot and then adjust the magnifier. For some reason I thought we were talking about no matter what you do a magnifier will mess with your zero/poi shift. Great videos btw

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:41

Is Andersons Manufacturing AR15 lowers any good? I got 2 (they were the only ones available i could find)

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:42

Ooooo... ooooo.. no baby girl what is you doin...

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:42

👀 that bad?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:42

Poverty Pony is known for having issues...

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:42

🙃 fuk

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:43

Better than no AR i guess lol

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

07 May 2020 21:43

Will it go bang and your on a tight budget yes. Are there better options yes

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:43

Well who knows... you might have gotten okay ones.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:43

Their QC is why no one actually recommends them though.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:43

I'd take PSA over them any day at this point.

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:43

As long as it holds I'm good, I can upgrade later

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:44

Really, the only way to see if they'll last, is take them out and shoot them.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:44

If they do okay then, you'll be alright.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:44

I mean you could inspect and gauge them first

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:44

I got 2, lol hopefully ones good lol

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:44

If you have a friend who has the tools, yeah.

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:44

Theyre stripped, not 80%

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:45

Well yeah, that's what we're talking about.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:45

You know what though. Honestly, if the dimensions are right... so long as you put decent parts inside. You might actually be alright.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:45

The problems will either be spec (things sized wrong) which you could check with some basic hand tools for most of those. Or metallurgy, which you won’t really know until it breaks, or you see cracks, etc

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:46

For sure, hoping to get them today if the background check isn't delayed

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:46

Let's see what kinda metal they use.. To google!

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:46

Says it's 7075 T6 aluminum

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:47

7075 T6 aluminum... and they claim it's Mil-spec

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

07 May 2020 21:47 edited: 2020-05-07T21:48:43.596+00:00

@Soulraiser vortex has a great warranty . If your looking at other options primary arms also makes great prism scope but that ACSS reticle primary arms uses is 👌

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:47 edited: 2020-05-07T21:47:46.288+00:00

7075 aluminium alloy is an aluminium alloy, with zinc as the primary alloying element. It has excellent mechanical properties, and exhibits good ductility, high strength, toughness and good resistance to fatigue. It is more susceptible to embrittlement than many other aluminium alloys because of microsegregation, but has significantly better corrosion resistance than the 2000 alloys. It is one of the most commonly used aluminium alloy for highly stressed structural applications, and has been extensively utilized in aircraft structural parts.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:48

You might actually be okay.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:48

I would just.... hide the logo. Hahaha

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:50

I read some reviews on it.. but it was obviously written by a poor. (lol) From what I can find, the stripped lowers don't seem to have any issues.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:50

Just fill it with good parts and I think you'll be alright.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:53

They had a bad batch back in 2015 apparently. But their newer lowers are okay for the most part from what I keep reading.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:53

I have definitely seen *wildly* out of spec Anderson lowers. Like pivot pin holes not even vaguely aligned, receiver extensions threaded completely off center, etc. Now, you could get a good one, and it could run fine for a good while. But just cause it’s stripped and the ‘correct’ material, doesn’t mean they did anything else right

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:54

@[CA] SoyBoi my biggest recommendation would be to measure things and carefully test fit each part

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 21:55

Where can I find the specs? I have the tools to measure but need to know what the right readings are

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:55

Yeah, all the bad stuff I'm reading about, that you described seem to be from years ago. I can't find anything bad that's new... but they had issues with the roll pins not being the right size, the magazine channels being too thin... And burrs on the machining.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:55

But, I haven't seen anything in the recent past.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:58

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ do you happen to have the lower specs handy in a link? I could find them later

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 21:58

http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/cad/ar15_receiver.pdf

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 21:59

Nice. I would mostly be worried about the dimension, location, and concentricity of the all the pin holes

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 22:01

Thanks guys Imma measure it up and find a sticker to hide the logo 😳

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 22:01

Hahaha, just don't hide the serial number XD Unless you're ready for that.

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

07 May 2020 22:02 edited: 2020-05-07T22:03:03.748+00:00

Serial number? Wat is serial number? Lol

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 22:04

Damn haven't picked them up and already lost them 😭

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 22:05

Hahahaha

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

07 May 2020 22:06

Tragic, bad idea to go boating with new reveivers 😭 0/10 wouldn't recommend

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 22:31

> @[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ do you happen to have the lower specs handy in a link? I could find them later @Crye Salesman No, I don’t have the TDP.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 May 2020 22:32

Someone posted it already, thanks. Well the dimensions, not the tdp

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 22:32

The TDP is the shit

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 22:32

Just don’t know where to find.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

07 May 2020 22:33

Got some trigger time like 20 minutes ago. Worked on some things such as making mag changes without looking and keeping my damn eyes open even when shooting. Alleviated both.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 23:50

https://youtu.be/DA-XgiMPff4

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

07 May 2020 23:51

Daddy Thumb gives some good advice, I'd recommend watching it whether you're all gucci'ed up or not. He doesn't even poor shame. Just good solid advice, especially for some of the newbies.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

08 May 2020 00:09

I like garand thumb hes always has good points

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 May 2020 00:22

Yeah Garden thump is aight

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Deleted User
(id: 456226577798135808)

08 May 2020 00:23

Added it to my Watch Later playlist

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 01:47

Lower I’m looking at buying. Aero lower and BCM parts kit. What do y’all think?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 May 2020 01:48

I think it's a decent purchase. Aero is decent Intermediate, haven't had any issues with them. And BCM never dissapoints.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 01:49

I think it would work well.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 May 2020 01:49

Yup, Crye stamp of approval

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 01:49

Cool. My neighbor is a shooting instructor and he said it would be a good buy as well. I’m poor but I want to buy decent gear.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 May 2020 01:50

That is a great attitude and plan to have.

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[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/
(id: 687142537353232434)

08 May 2020 01:50

You have the SOTAR cult approval

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INNATRUCK
(id: 239601910527557632)

08 May 2020 01:50

Brownell's can eat of bag of dicks.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 May 2020 01:52

Not brownells fault at all but okay?

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 01:53

I’ve also been experimenting with home made armor. Saving up for RMA or Hoplite stuff but wanted to learn how to make halfway decent shit for if shit really really goes down. Pretty happy with this first plate. Gonna wack it with a 12ga magnum slug and a SKS this weekend. Happy with it so far.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 May 2020 01:54

I am simultaneously mad and impressed

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 01:55

Why are you mad lol?

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INNATRUCK
(id: 239601910527557632)

08 May 2020 01:56

@Crye Salesman I know it's not their fault, but still BS.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 May 2020 01:56

Because I would generally consider that to be a terrible idea, but your product and results actually look decent

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 01:58

I build a lot of crazy shit. I watched the one vid of the dude that made the home made plate, and did it better. I used a fiberglass microfiber and a fiberglass bonding agent and used more layers+ had consistent pressure over the entire product, and used a garage to keep a more consistent temperature to cure it.

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 01:59

I’m gonna order some dirt cheap steel plates to be able to make them curved.

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 02:02

Im also currently working on building a candlepic bowling ball cannon.

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MrCaviar
(id: 706649542463848549)

08 May 2020 02:17

@KnightArkane what is it made of

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MrCaviar
(id: 706649542463848549)

08 May 2020 02:17

ive heard you can just layer a shit load of fiberglass

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MrCaviar
(id: 706649542463848549)

08 May 2020 02:17

it doesnt work for anything but small arms

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

08 May 2020 02:29

I’m sure some of those lowers will still be ending up in Canada

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 May 2020 02:30

well layering fiberglass is essentially the same thing as layering kevlar, just lower strength

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 02:31

@MrCaviar 5.56 went straight through. I’m gonna test a magnum slug and 7.62 this weekend.

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MrCaviar
(id: 706649542463848549)

08 May 2020 02:32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7jiIQOgwtI

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MrCaviar
(id: 706649542463848549)

08 May 2020 02:32

not surpised

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KnightArkane
(id: 401492150443048980)

08 May 2020 02:34

That’s the vid I based it off of. I used more layers, fiberglass microfiber and a different bonding agent. I also used a better compression so there were no bubbles and it was consistent all the way through. Mine cost close to $45.

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MrCaviar
(id: 706649542463848549)

08 May 2020 04:19

well theres gotta be a way to make it stronger

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MrCaviar
(id: 706649542463848549)

08 May 2020 04:20

maybe a thin sheet of metal on the front?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 May 2020 04:20

Or in the middle.

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