Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 4]

This is really fucking cool https://youtu.be/hNIkca8k1UQ

Anyone have a list of current manufacturers making low shelf receivers?

Typical Bear Creek Arsenal mistakes

😤 I posted that yesterday nerd

I mean. At least it's just the laser engravings... How they managed to run it through twice is baffling though.

Hey guys https://tacticalmachining.com has 80% lowers still in stock. 👍

@Soulraiser i more concerned that they ran it through twice and the markings are like a centimeter offset

@Crye Salesman Good point

However, it's the engraving that's done after the milling. Everything should be to the same specs still. If the holes were cut like that as well then the concern would be there.

In theory with how billet lowers are made, shouldn't they be difficult to screw up? I mean they use CNC for billet right?

Exactly my point. Therefore, if the lower parts all fit and function properly, and if the upper attaches properly, then there's nothing wrong with it except cosmetic.

And in reality, it was probably sold as a blemished lower in the first place, as they do regularly for parts that had weird shit like that happen.

@Soulraiser you have to put in for a role

Picked up this today to put on the PC

With a few hose clamps you got yourself a "high quality" bayonet...

I forget what movie it is, but the SGT said to take it off because you can’t shoot straight with it on 😂

Band of Brothers; Actually in the midst of watching it with my wife.

Believe it was Bull that told one of the replacements that just before the battle of the bulge.

Is a bayonet affecting your accuracy more fudd-lore or legit?

@Soulraiser damn you sniped that. What a damn good series that is.

I can't imagine the round even coming close to the blade unless something is seriously wrong with your gun.

I have no idea about the legitimacy of that though. Never shot with one and I doubt with rifles these days it would have any effect

It has to do with the added weight at the front of the rifle that you aren't used to being there.

That makes a lot more sense. If you train bayonet fixed it shouldn't be an issue though.

But then it's an issue when you don't have it fixed. It's a lose-lose imo. But useful back when they had bolt action or semi autos that jammed every other shot in a mostly trench warfare style of fighting.

Yea if it came down to a knife situation I think I’d rather have it in my hand

Anyone have any thoughts on sig m18? Thinking about picking one up this week.

Just a P320, isn't it?

Same advice I give everyone on every Sig USA product: stay away from it until the initial product runs with QC that would make PSA blush are done. Get one in 6 months to a year.

Yea the M18 is a 320

Should be good to pick up

What yall think for a minimalistic cleaning kit on the field,

Gonna go with this I think, keep it small and basic

Boresnake, rifle lube (or grease if you’re a G), a brush (not brass or metal, it will cause unnecessary damage) q-tips (for getting to the area where the gas rings are)

Awesome thanks!

Attached with molle.

A small Allen key set wouldn’t hurt.

For those of you who have never heard of it, CherryBalmz gun grease is amazing for your rifle.

It’s entirely formulated for your rifle. I’ve talked to the guy who invented it.

It’s amazing how he’s so good at what he does, he understands the science behind everything as well.

And every single person I know who has used it has told me they don’t ever want to switch back to traditional gun lube.

I personally use alg go juice. Won't say it's any better than other stuff but it's safe for your skin, doesn't gunk up or rot, and rifles don't seem to quit when it has this stuff in it.

I use SLIP EWL, but the other recommendations are good as well

All good options

I hear good things about both SLIP and Go Juice

With the bolt gun I'm saving up for, I'm still kinda torn. Starting to lean a little towards 308 given 7.62x51 is available anywhere in the world and it may be better for learning ballistic calculations on.

Between 7.62 x 51 and?

6.5 creedmoor. I understand it's a superior cartridge ballistically, but 308 and 762 seem like they'd be more available to me in a crisis

Practically speaking, 7.62 x 51 is a good choice.

The availability of optics that have built in BDCs is pretty good as well for 7.62 x 51.

The optic I'll likely be getting is a nightforce shv 4-14x50 f1 in mil dots

Took me longer than i expected to find a mildot scope with milradian adjustments that was also under 2k

My dad already has nice reloading equipment with 308 dies so I'll be able to make my own when i visit

> Took me longer than i expected to find a mildot scope with milradian adjustments that was also under 2k @Confused Exactly. I don’t see the usefulness of mildots if you’re not adjusting in miliradians.

Algebra practice if you're into that sort of thing lol. After reading about mil and moa, I think mil would be more useful to me

Given that I'm a broke student, I've also been considering the vortex diamondback tactical 4-16x44 ffp in milrad. I know it won't be as good as the nightforce, but is it good enough? I'm trying to be economical with my money.

I was going to say, broke college student and night force don’t go together

> Given that I'm a broke student, I've also been considering the vortex diamondback tactical 4-16x44 ffp in milrad. I know it won't be as good as the nightforce, but is it good enough? > I'm trying to be economical with my money. @Confused Does it adjust in miliradians?

Yeah

I mean the nf is relatively cheap for nf, at 1.2k

If the Vortex adjusts in miliradians as well as uses mil-dots, that to me is a good deal, if it’s cheaper than the NF.

Retails at 500, can get it on optics planet for 350. They're supposed to be tough as hell for the price

If it adjusts in miliradians (it does) THATS a hell of a deal.

At least it's marketed as being really tough, and there's reviews of people using it as a hammer lol

well damn

Only thing I don't like is that it doesn't have a zero stop

It’s a ~$700 difference at least.

Though it only costs one weeks work instead of 4 weeks, yeah

The rest of the money will be spent training. There's a guy in my state who's a retired sniper and owns a mile long range. A precision rifle class with them costs $300

Super jealous

That’s cheap as hell

Also don’t forget to torque your scope rings down properly.

~17 inch pounds should hold it.

@Crye Salesman curious on your opinion. I know it's a budget option but is it a poor choice? For context, I only bring in around 400 a week.

I’ve got a failure to fire every 3-4 rounds.

Switched out BCGs and still an issue. Could it be a light hammer strike?

What kind of failure?

Is it not cycling or not firing at all?

Make sure your hammer spring isn't installed backward if it's not firing at all.

Anyone hace recommendations on ammo for our type of self defense? 556, in a 16" barrel, run fmj? Hollow? Green tip?

75gr boat tail hollow point if your twist rate supports it

Or 77, anywhere around there

Also open tip match. The main reason being that 75-77 grain 5.56 bullets fragment incredibly well even at low velocity. They're devastating

Hmm, ill have to see if I can find any Heaviest I got is 62, but most places have very limited stock lol

You'll want to read this http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/self_defense_ammo_FAQ/

Most of it is from a dude with a doctorate

If I can't find any, you think hollow or fmj 55grain would work better?

Cause I knwere I can get those for sure, anything heavier I haven't seen on the shelf

Most stores only carry cheap 55gr plinking ammo and green tip. I'd probably suggest buying either online or at a local business if you can. A lot of online ammo stores have free shipping on the first purchase.

Commiefornia can't buy online 🥺

Oooh that complicates things

Very lol

And let alone the shortage out here lol

In that case I'd say save up for a large amount of ammo, drive to the nearest free state, and stock up there

I dont think I will, thats illegal and I wouldn't want to get in trouble 🙃 so hard no, as an unjust law abiding citizen

I think there's a few shops near the border in Nevada. I'd build one there if I were a store owner lol.