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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 5]

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

26 May 2020 22:58 edited: 2020-05-26T22:58:35.073+00:00

Anyone have any opinions on Glock 19 trigger upgrades or anything I can do to the factory trigger to clean it up a bit

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

26 May 2020 23:05

I have one, I took it off of my glock though. It would be decent for a rifle sight, but I don't like it on the pistol.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

26 May 2020 23:05

The triangle is way too big when not close to your eye

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:07

I have seen a few bull pup sks online that look not bad sadly it illegal to turn a firearm into a bull pup. But I can go to the gun store and buy a tavor or a type 97 etc. Lol

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:08

Illegal in Canada

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

26 May 2020 23:11

Really? That sucks man. I gotta say, don't really care for SKSs, they are okay. But I actually like the bullpupped ones.

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:19

I have 4 sks and have beat the piss out of them. For what they are they are good rifles but they are certainly no Ar15 or Ak47

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:19

Its considered the poor man ak up here

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:20

The only other legal AK is the Finnish Valmet m78 I think is the designation

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

26 May 2020 23:20

Valmets are nice

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:21

And they usually go for about $8000 bucks unless you get the hunter version which is $3000 bucks then you have to find a RPK or Galil parts kits to make it look slick

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

26 May 2020 23:21

@GRANITE I have replaced every aftermarket trigger I have in my Glocks back to factory with a - connector, I’m much more accurate with a consistent wall

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:23

Side question what's a good brand of underbarrel flashlight for a Jericho 941 in 9mm with a built in underbarrel rail

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GRANITE
(id: 701205727355600917)

26 May 2020 23:25

- connector?

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:26

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:26

I should check the rail dimensions when I get home

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:28

My HK SL8-4 has been a pig to find parts for as the germans like to make shit expensive or proprietary or both lol

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BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

26 May 2020 23:30

I had swapped my magwell out for and AR15 magwell adapter on my SL8-4 because most AR15 mags are like $25 $30 bucks up here and G36 mags are like over $60 and like god damned unicorns to find sometimes

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

27 May 2020 00:07

I mean it *looks* like the standard dust cover rail, which means streamlight, surefire, etc would pop right on. But could be some other weird Nonsense

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𝔑𝔢𝔭𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔰
(id: 272855779432726531)

27 May 2020 10:43

@Potatoes O'Reilly pain in the balls to carry

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harbinger76
(id: 700779484873359482)

27 May 2020 16:07

Besides the extra staps on the shoulders for routing, does anyone see a functional or structural difference between these two?

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eclipse
(id: 196711236577001472)

27 May 2020 16:37

Anyone know an ar-15 piston conversion that can use any bolt carrier?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 16:44

The top one likely has better weight distribution while the bottom one likely breathes better

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 16:46

Also di and piston bcg's are fundamentally different because they operate differently. You have to use a bcg made for the piston system you're using

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 16:47

The gas key is the most noticeable difference. You can't use a di gas key with a piston

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

27 May 2020 17:08

And the worst part with piston on an AR, is each company basically has a proprietary system, it's not standardized, so you have to get theirs.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 17:24

Personally I prefer regular DI ar's. They're lighter, less front heavy, and handle mud better. You have to clean them more, but all that gunk in a piston gun still has to be cleaned out, you're just cleaning it from a different area.

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

27 May 2020 17:26

^

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

27 May 2020 17:26

Pretty much everything stated above

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

27 May 2020 17:28

All the extra hassle and it’s still going to gas you in the face suppressed 😂

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

27 May 2020 17:33

Should I run soft point for 223 or fmj?

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

27 May 2020 17:34

I think soft point us better for self defense than fmj

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[CA] SoyBoi
(id: 338553359843721218)

27 May 2020 17:34

Heard its better than hollow on penetration, but still expands well

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 17:45

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/self_defense_ammo_FAQ/

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 17:45

Reference this

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 17:46

It'll give you a list of ammo and why it's preferred

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 18:18

If you'd like to know what kind of ammo you should run in whatever caliber gun you have, use the command !ammo

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 18:18

Pinned a message.

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

27 May 2020 18:22

!ammo

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

27 May 2020 18:22

I have been bamboozled again

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 18:22

Wack, of course it's not working

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 18:24

actually I think mee6 is down

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MEE6
(id: 159985870458322944)

27 May 2020 18:28

```fix I see you're asking which ammo in X caliber is best for self defense again. Reference this article with data by DocGKR, an actual fucking doctor. ``` http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/self_defense_ammo_FAQ/

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

27 May 2020 18:29

Oooooooh

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

27 May 2020 18:29

But why doesn't it have .303

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 18:31

people use 303?

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

27 May 2020 18:32

Mostly kidding but .303 fucks

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johnathan32z
(id: 707754381960937492)

27 May 2020 19:04

Hey I got some questions that I didnt think would be safe to discuss on the facebook groups, if this isn't the place for them either than is there anyone I can talk to about it. I'm wondering (for scientific reasons of course) about the reliability and use of swift links.

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

27 May 2020 19:06

Happy I was able to stock up befor Ammo got pricy befor the plague

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johnathan32z
(id: 707754381960937492)

27 May 2020 19:06

Also I have been wondering about getting another ar pistol and just wondering what setups people are running with 8.5" barrels

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 19:07

SL tldr. Adding junk into your fire control group (assuming you have a manufacturer's license mr fed boi) typically decreases your reliability significantly. Another downside is that it completely eliminates the capability to fire in semi autistic mode

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johnathan32z
(id: 707754381960937492)

27 May 2020 19:08

Well that sounds far less attractive now

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 19:08

It's a novelty, and definitely not worth it, even with the proper anti fido-ventilating licensing

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 19:08

Get yourself a binary trigger if you're looking to have fun, though even that decreases reliability

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johnathan32z
(id: 707754381960937492)

27 May 2020 19:11

Appreciate the info, I've looked into binary triggers before just haven't convinced myself to get one yet. anyone here run an echo sport 2 enough to judge the reliability of the trigger system itself ?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 19:14

Haven't ran the sport. The regular one seems to work decently enough but you may need a heavier buffer. For some reason running a light buffer with it leads to light strikes, and it's a known issue. The trigger pull is also kinda weird, long. Fun, but a high end semi trigger will do you better if you're shooting seriously

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

27 May 2020 19:16

I've got a friend who has an rpk with a binary trigger, and that sounds like a ton of fun. Haven't seen it personally though

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LibertyPrime
(id: 715270816404602962)

27 May 2020 19:38

Greetings gents. If you guys need anything let me know. Im a dealer and get you all a hook up on parts/accessories.

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Krusk
(id: 638232169839329292)

27 May 2020 19:58

Damaged the spalling on my plates with a bad fall, anyone know a good fix?

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

27 May 2020 19:59

On steel I'm assuming?

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Krusk
(id: 638232169839329292)

27 May 2020 20:00

Does it matter? It's just a deep gash in the spalling

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

27 May 2020 20:00

Spray on truck bed liner works okay

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Krusk
(id: 638232169839329292)

27 May 2020 20:00

Thanks

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HalfACigarette
(id: 274216130892136448)

27 May 2020 20:01

It also works if you spray it on yo bullets

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HalfACigarette
(id: 274216130892136448)

27 May 2020 20:01

Shhh

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

27 May 2020 20:01

Of course if it is steel it's all gonna come off after the first hit anyway

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Krusk
(id: 638232169839329292)

27 May 2020 20:05 edited: 2020-05-27T20:07:16.096+00:00

It's composite, ceramic on steel. Ceramic didn't crack as far as I can tell, nothing feels loose or anything like that

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

27 May 2020 20:25

Never headed of a caramic + steel plate.

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

27 May 2020 20:30

It's a ceremic plate with a steel backing to it, unless it is some unicorn of a plate

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[TX] yeehawdist
(id: 361318745169199125)

27 May 2020 21:54

I'm going to be prepping to participate in protests and other "events" we might find ourselves involved in. My plan is to not necessarily be on the Frontline, but to stand back and offer support for weapons repair and the such. Anyone have insight i could use on what I might need for a backpack portable gunsmiths kit?

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

27 May 2020 22:01

Spare parts, Allen Keys, lubricants, and one of those AR multi tools, everything else a smith would need is either shop or vehicle mounted due to weight

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

27 May 2020 22:20

Literally no offense, but if you’re asking those questions, you should get your learn on first

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

27 May 2020 23:11

Way better stuff to pack for a protest vs an armorers kit

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NoStEpOnSnEk
(id: 706122000464216085)

27 May 2020 23:54

Hey guys, what's the opinion on mk318? Seems expensive but im thinking about zeroing my 16" 1:7 twist with it. Was thinking m855 would be similar enough to practice with in order to save money at the range.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

28 May 2020 00:02

That’s a good idea, but it’s essentially Speer gold dot, so just get whichever is cheaper tbh.

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MEE6
(id: 159985870458322944)

28 May 2020 00:24

```fix I see you're asking which ammo in X caliber is best for self defense again. Reference this article with data by DocGKR, an actual fucking doctor. ``` http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/self_defense_ammo_FAQ/

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

28 May 2020 00:25

Nice, whoever set that up

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

28 May 2020 00:26

❤️

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

28 May 2020 00:26

Trying to put together commands for commonly asked questions

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shoshi
(id: 267529456111976448)

28 May 2020 00:28

> Why aren't drum mags more popular? Is it a reliability thing? @Potatoes O'Reilly its a combination of weight/size, ability to be stored effectively on person, and ofc reliability

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disgracedMORTAL8036419
(id: 644722410649681920)

28 May 2020 00:41

So good news and a question

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disgracedMORTAL8036419
(id: 644722410649681920)

28 May 2020 00:43 edited: 2020-05-28T00:43:48.088+00:00

I finally was able to get a BCM reece 16 itll be here Friday, and the question i have a glock 43 that just recently started short stroking I suppose, it start to chamber the next round but doesn't seem to have enough power to chamber it all the way. Would that just be the recoil spring or w.e being worn out?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

28 May 2020 00:43

That’s the most likely explanation

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

28 May 2020 00:44

There’s other possibljties tho

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disgracedMORTAL8036419
(id: 644722410649681920)

28 May 2020 00:49

I figured as much I just haven't been to concerned about it though bc it seems to be very picky with the speer gold dots i shoot and I have an FNS 9c so its really just a convenient little gun I wouldn't mind carrying

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

28 May 2020 00:52

318 is way better than 855

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

28 May 2020 00:52

Is it malfunctioning on gold dots, or range ammo?

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disgracedMORTAL8036419
(id: 644722410649681920)

28 May 2020 00:54

Its both, its just every other round for gold dot and thats what I carry.

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disgracedMORTAL8036419
(id: 644722410649681920)

28 May 2020 00:56

I think the range ammo is basic 115 grain CCI blazer

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boog3r69
(id: 705517403441725533)

28 May 2020 01:10

Any FFLS in here I have some questions

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[TX] yeehawdist
(id: 361318745169199125)

28 May 2020 01:11

> Literally no offense, but if you’re asking those questions, you should get your learn on first @Crye Salesman none taken. I've been working as a small arms and heavy weapon repair man for almost two years but have only done a little fidgeting with a mobile tool kit so I was looking for ideas to supplement my own.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

28 May 2020 01:12

Ah, okay. The way you phrased it made me think you meant “what tools do I need for guns?” Not, “what’s a good *small* kit”

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

28 May 2020 12:33

Interesting take from SOTAR. No cerakote. Mostly has to do with guns that have cerakote sprayed on the inside for some reason. I wasn't aware it was common to spray it on working components and shit like feed ramps, which is obviously stupid.

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

28 May 2020 13:11

The idea is the ceramic will reduce ware and act as a dry lubricant

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

28 May 2020 13:12

Idk if that’s how it works in actual use

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

28 May 2020 13:12

I know MAC did a segment on it

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Dudl
(id: 715182992221274133)

28 May 2020 13:24

Hey all. Came into possession of another AR lower and I'm looking for ideas on what to do with it. I already have a BCM 12.5" pistol, and an 18" SPR type rifle as my main rifle. Open to a more team oriented build also (37mm underneath or something). Ideas?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

28 May 2020 13:38

Completely wrecks the tolerances when bubba doesn't mask the rifle properly though. As for the rifle, best place to start is determining a goal for what you'd like to do, then build a rifle around that

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

28 May 2020 13:39

Random idea, shorty 7" 300blk with a collapsible or law folder stock. Hard hitting travel gun

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Rawhide
(id: 300364683167399936)

28 May 2020 13:52

I have one with a 7.5" barrel and a law folder.

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