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I haven't looked at how well their receivers match up but they're known for having one of the best upper receivers out there, and top quality qd optic mounts

Only two minor complaints. They refuse to say what their barrel is made out of, though it's very accurate. They exclusively sell on their website, though they have good discounts from time to time.

When on sale, their trigger is $80 which is fantastic for a trigger similar to geissele but with a slightly longer reset

There's other triggers that match geissele in quality but none have the track record geissele does

Timney and the ar gold trigger come to mind as a couple

I mean as far as rifle triggers go, the milspec ar15 trigger is pretty good anyway, but there's some really nice ones out there

Why wouldn’t I take a heavy Krieger into battle?

@dreadnokboi I love mine

Because it's heavy and sucks to carry. I'd run it on a precision rifle but not a carbine

I'd much rather have a chrome lined chf barrel on a doorkicker gun

Meh. Your gun is pretty much the lightest bit of kit you have to deal with, I wouldn’t be concerned until you get up past 12lbs

I have a larue UU kit ordered with their stripped lower

Going to take like 4 fucking months though

Nice

My recce rifle with bipod and suppressor is a hair over 13lbs, just under 12 without them

Ounces equal pounds. If you can cut weight without sacrificing utility, it's worth it no matter how strong you are.

A heavy 11.5 barrel weighs twice what a contoured one does

I mean yes. But build a rifle that is capable of fulfilling its role, then worry about weight.

My main carbine weighs 8.25lbs

Functionality is a given. I mean we don't congratulate people for not shitting their pants.

I kinda feel like stoner's design got bastardized. A rifle may be extremely good quality with a DD government barrel and a KAC quad rail, then maybe an elcan, PEQ, another flashlight, and so on. Then you have a 6 pound rifle except it's 10 pounds with a barrel that's half the length

Maybe not an elcan on a 10.3 but you get the point

Elcan on 10.3 is goon certified

Yes, but capabilities. An M16A2 can’t do half of the shit that a kitted out carbine can, fact.

Definitely has more capabilities but certain design aspects are regressive, mainly the barrel and rail. The attachments are gonna add weight regardless but some things seem to be contrary to the original philosophy for the sake of either politics or dumbass officers, usually both

Also god damn I wish I could afford an elcan spectre. I forgot they had the 1-4

I love the idea of a throw lever instead of zoom

I fucked with an elcan in a shoothouse for a few weeks

Definitely super cool, has some problems.

What are you implying is contrary to the original philosophy

The original philosophy was to have a lightweight yet still fairly powerful rifle that was easy to point, ergonomic, and wouldn't fatigue soldiers like its heavier predecessors. A few design decisions later on were pretty contrary to this, mainly the government profile barrel and the quad rail. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on the quad rail, that maybe they just weren't able to make an effective mounting system that involved cutting parts from a handguard shape like mlok instead of adding picatinny to it.

We're starting to move back towards lightweight designs now that technology has progressed a bit. The military is just always the slowest to adopt

Hmm. If you could pick one optic, no holds barred, to go with you to the end of the world, what would it be?

Assuming a general purpose rifle.

https://youtu.be/4HotaCT1FTU

For my no holds barred end of the world optic, trjicon 4 power Acog

Aim point patrol redot with aim pot 3x magnifier. Have it on 2 of my rifles. Battery lasts longer than most on aim point

Check out the artwork on these 1911s These are Auto Ordnance, under Kahr Arms https://shopkahrfirearmsgroup.com/revolution-special-edition-1911-45-cal-5-barrel-1/ https://shopkahrfirearmsgroup.com/liberty-special-edition-1911-45-cal-5-barrel-1/

Nice 1911s but I want an engraved Korth PRS 6 in 9mm

Interesting gun! Just googled.it

It is the much sexy, very accurate, do be expensive gat I strive to have

You know wat would be a interesting gun the custom m1911 from john dillinger or al Capone

John Dillinger's custom 1911, I believe it was also fully auto but not certain

It was

There was several made, in both .45 and .38 Super

Cops: No, you can't just have us out gunned, noooooo Dillinger: Haha, 1911 go brrrr

Anyone know what causes a failure to eject? Ar15, fires, but at times doesn't eject, causing a jam with the next round

There could be many reasons. The one I am familiar with is the extractor was worn out. The new unfired round would jam into the casing that was attempting to be ejected.

Its a new carrier group I just lubed and cleaned it I'll run it more and see whats going in Nothing seems off

Roast me. Bought because .380 is one of the only calibers easily found where I’m at. Bought for 150

Dude I panic bought a Walther P22 lol there was only 22lr for a while here Feel fucking dumb lol looking for a M&P sheild now lol

https://youtu.be/rW0upku1HIQ

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@[CA] SoyBoi buy a Glock 19

@GRANITE how are they for CC ?

Amazing

I have mine at all times

Did you ever respond to what plate you got from shellback

Carrying a backpack with plates on is a new fucking challenge

@GRANITE let me look real quick

Word

Solution is to wear nothing at all.

Knowing how your 2nd and 3rd line works is important to actually being functional

Roast my new lower

What’s to roast

Thanks king

@Potatoes O'Reilly it’s got BCM internals and a magpul grip

Quality lower

Funky stick

Stock

Aero lower with BCM guts and Magpul furniture is what I was planning on doing

Radian builder kit, lantac bcg, geissele or timney trigger, noveske or criterion barrel. Been 4 weeks since I ordered my builder kit, csr told me lead times are now 8-10 weeks instead of 4-6. Gives me time to get more gucci

People with cerakote: what's this weird residue on my brass deflector? I've had to touch it up three times this month.

Rattlecan gang: fuck I dropped it and I can't find it

Honestly though good lower

Very nice lower. What kind of upper are you planning on putting with it?

Rattlecan>cerakote

@Recon_5.11 probably ballistic advantage.223 Wylde. Heard good stuff about them, and they’re a sister company to Aero.

Ballistic Advantage is decent

Their barrels aren't anything great but they're functional

@Cannibal1-1 yeah they seemed like a decent mid tier upper. My landlord is a firearms instructor and he runs BA in a couple of his ARs. He recommended them to me. Will get one of their uppers until I can save for something top tier.

@Jon Irenicus holy gucci rifle

Testing on noveske barrels has shown they actually perform pretty poorly for the price. Like 1.5 moa with decent ammo. For the price, you can get pro tier barrels that shoot under half moa like a compass lake krieger stainless.

Well fuck, if I can find my source again

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?61263-Accuracy-Evaluation-of-Six-Different-Noveske-Barrels

3 - 10 shot groups with each barrel using hand loads. The heavy barrel performed fairly well but others were of acceptable standards for average barrels.

Anyone suggest a budget pistol lol I just need a 9mm, budgets tight but a 22lr isn't gonna cut it lol

Probably CZ

Or police trade in glock if you can find it (good luck right now)

Coulda sworn the cz p10 was cheaper than 450. Idk if I'm misremembering or if it's inflated due to covid

That stimulus check already backfiring lol

Right now it might be difficult to find cheap handguns thanks to all the panic

Im a poor too its okay

But at least i dont buy shit

I've got my handy defensive rock

Not even a knife?

It's European legal and I can carry on planes

While the TSA would not be able to find a knife in your carry on my rock will also work as a shield.