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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 5]

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 17:27

I love inrange TV but they made an akm fail the mud test. When the test continues until the gun fails what matters is how long it takes, not that it failed

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 May 2020 17:50

It also failed the dust test

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 May 2020 17:50

It’s almost like AK’s aren’t that good, and never have been

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

19 May 2020 17:52

It's almost like no gun is made to have sand and mud poured into it intentionally

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 17:58

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 17:59

The 416 performed worse than the m4. Funny enough, the ak performed worse than the m4.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 18:04

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 18:07

The thing is, Inrange tries to put rifles through the worst scenarios they can, just attempting to get halfway to the same league that they go through in the real world. Frankly it's not even close, but they keep going until it fails, so you can get an idea of when and where it will fail.

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 18:13

That's what I'm saying. Some people saying something isn't reliable because of their mud test just isn't true

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 18:14

The tests isn't whether or not it'll fail, the test doesn't stop until it does. It's WHEN it fails, then you be the judge on whether or not that's acceptable for your usage

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 May 2020 18:29

Loose tolerances doesn't mean that you can jam dirt in it. Just means that it's easier to get dirt into there. Hahaha.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 May 2020 18:30

I've watched a lot of AR vs AK videos or whatever. And more often than not, the AR actually performs very well.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 18:59

AR's, at least ones not made by Anderson, are pretty tight fitting. Mud would be able to jam it up, if the mud could get inside in the first place

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 19:07

The biggest difference between the two I think is cleaning after they've failed and return to function

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 19:08

AK you tear the top cover off, piss on the bolt carrier, and your good to go. An AR COULD require a field strip with carrier removal

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 19:08

An ak more likely than an AR, wouldn't require essential pieces being removed from the gun the way an AR does.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 19:11

Yeah there's stories at least, of people having to brace an ak against the ground, kick the bolt open, then keep firing

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 19:12

Mortaring an ak is basically standard practice if it's jammed shut. Whether you can mortar an AR repeatedly I don't know I've never seen someone yet

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 19:12

Try*

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

19 May 2020 19:16

I've seen people do it once or twice in a row but it wasn't the kind of malfunction that was clearable in that manner

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 19:17

I just don't have much experience clearing malfunctions with an ar because the only ones I've ever had are very occasional primer duds, almost never.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 19:18

sometimes I'll throw random snap caps in a magazine just for malfunction clearing drills

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

19 May 2020 19:19

It was a malfunction that was caused by him installing a trigger part backwards, bullet was trapped in the chamber and mortaring ripped the case away from the bullet spilling the powder on everything

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 19:19

Oh nice lol

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

19 May 2020 19:20

I don't even understand how it all happened but it was a new build

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 May 2020 19:30

You can absolutely mortar an AR

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

19 May 2020 19:46

But can you grease an AR with ground up banana?

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 May 2020 20:11

@AppalachianTerminus I have mortared an AR/M16 many times. It's fine.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

19 May 2020 20:11

Provo, you don't grease up weapons. You lube them.

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littlebitt08
(id: 387351802846248960)

19 May 2020 20:24

@snappleapple1212 can I message you with suggestions

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littlebitt08
(id: 387351802846248960)

19 May 2020 20:26

@snappleapple1212 another one I can say without more info is under wood 9mm extreme defense

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 20:29

Huh, radian must be pretty proud of their rails or something. They don't sell uppers without rails

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TankzFoBeer
(id: 587826960282026018)

19 May 2020 20:38

any good books or guides to getting started in ammo reloading?

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 20:46

@TankzFoBeer most any reloading manual will have a breakdown of how to do it

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AppalachianTerminus
(id: 466752360501215232)

19 May 2020 20:46

The reloading room is a good fb page a lot of very experienced people

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

19 May 2020 21:35

I mean you can put lithium grease in weapons

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

19 May 2020 22:57

@Confused nope 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

19 May 2020 22:58

My first idea was to get just an upper and lower. Kinda forced me to get that rail

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snappleapple1212
(id: 491795889690771487)

19 May 2020 23:10

@littlebitt08 please feel free too.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

19 May 2020 23:22

My dad came to me asking about ar parts for a pistol. Might actually get him to do something of reasonable quality

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 01:16

Any of you guys run gear for a G3 or FAL variant?

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

20 May 2020 01:23

Was thinking about it

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

20 May 2020 01:24

I like my G3 but it’s not my go to rifle

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 01:29

I used to have a G3 and while it's a fun gun, and one of the most reliable rifles ever made, the manual of arms and construction paired with using a full size cartridge that's not shooting sub moa leaves you at a pretty big disadvantage. Mag changes are a bitch because you have to lock the charging handle back, line up a mag just right, and slap the charging handle down.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

20 May 2020 01:36

Good luck in any close quarter situation with that thing too, hahaha.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 01:41

You're better off just beating them to death with it. The gun's pretty heavy but it'll keep its zero afterward

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boog3r69
(id: 705517403441725533)

20 May 2020 14:48

Anyone have a London bridge trading carrier?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

20 May 2020 15:09

Like half of the people until 3 or 4 years ago

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boog3r69
(id: 705517403441725533)

20 May 2020 16:40

@Crye Salesman well I just saw one on extraction and was curious about them. I was looking at the spiritus lv119 but decided I wanted something that I could potentially load down later on if I wanted and I heard mixed reviews about loading a minimalistic plate carrier with too much stuff causing lower back pain. But guessing about your name what would a Crye cage carrier run me?

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boog3r69
(id: 705517403441725533)

20 May 2020 16:41

Large multicam

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 16:43

Yeah the minimalist pc's are lightweight but aren't as good at distributing weight. Conversely, the cage is good at distributing weight but is much bulkier

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

20 May 2020 16:44

Cages are hard to get. AVS would be what you want, loooking around 650 used

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 16:46

Oh i forgot about the cage's 1.5k price tag

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boog3r69
(id: 705517403441725533)

20 May 2020 16:46

@Crye Salesman without plates?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 16:47

Yeah plates are gonna add at least 500

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 16:47

And then you can get them as expensive as 1-2k per plate

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boog3r69
(id: 705517403441725533)

20 May 2020 16:48

Well I just won some Hoplite multicurve lvl 4s the other day

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 17:31

Me when I finish an AR build

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

20 May 2020 18:32

Yes @boog3r69

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

20 May 2020 18:33

+/- 100 deepening what options you want

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[PA]LM
(id: 204071138341421066)

20 May 2020 19:19

> @TankzFoBeer most any reloading manual will have a breakdown of how to do it @AppalachianTerminus. Get the Lee reloading book

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[PA]LM
(id: 204071138341421066)

20 May 2020 19:19

> Any of you guys run gear for a G3 or FAL variant? @The_Black_Knight what kind of gear

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 19:24

@[PA]LM chest rigs or what pouches you use. a friend of mine picked a PTR up and I told him to get a Rhodesian rig for the time being, since he doesn’t have a PC yet

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[PA]LM
(id: 204071138341421066)

20 May 2020 19:27

@The_Black_Knight 2x g3 mags will fit in a g36 dual mag pouch. One g3 mag will fit in some ar mag pouches kinda tight. When I get more I'll get m1a or ar10 mag pouches.

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 19:29

Gotcha, he was eyeballing some surplus German stuff too

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[PA]LM
(id: 204071138341421066)

20 May 2020 19:30

@The_Black_Knight if a mag pouch is tight, jam the mag in, then some more shit too, then sit it in front of a heater for a few hours

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 19:32

I’ve heard the chicom type 67 rigs fit the g3 mags too?

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[PA]LM
(id: 204071138341421066)

20 May 2020 19:33

I wouldn't know that but ak mag pouches would be pretty deep for short g3 mags , If it's an ak rig

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 19:52

My bad, it’s the type 63 rig

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 19:52

From doing some looking they were designed for 20rd ak mags or something like that, so they sound like they’re a pretty good fit

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 19:53

But the Rhodesian reproduction rigs are designed for g3/FAL mags

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JackLAXXX
(id: 351251101745676300)

20 May 2020 20:06

any easy to do at home suggestions for searing my steaks automatically? Want a good char

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

20 May 2020 20:13

Unnecessary

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

20 May 2020 20:13

A normal steak will serve you just as well

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pathenryv2
(id: 479741380281761802)

20 May 2020 20:14

I find sears to be preferable for larger options, if not then it’s not doing you much good

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 20:21

That subject is uncomfortably twisty

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 20:27

I’m with @pathenryv2 though, only specific steaks should be seared, it’s usually excessive and unneeded

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 20:33

While everyone should have the option to sear their steaks, they should be careful. The carcinogens can harm your dog if you're not careful.

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[PA]LM
(id: 204071138341421066)

20 May 2020 20:34

Searing steaks is great indoors or on a grill with two legs to hold up the business end of the grill

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[PA]LM
(id: 204071138341421066)

20 May 2020 20:35

Dont let these vegans tell you otherwise

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 20:42

Some of the old timers will say you don't need those fancy gas operated propane grills, that a manual fire is the only way to do it. They'd be wrong though.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 20:52

I wouldn't really trust either

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

20 May 2020 21:13

Can anyone suggest good-high quality BUDGET fixed blades?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 21:13

Oh I didn't realize you were talking about 80%

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 21:15

@Abe Clark define budget

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 21:15

And philosophy of use

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

20 May 2020 21:16

If it's under 100, probably the KA-BAR Becker "campanion." Unlike the Mora, it has a full tang

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 21:16

Depending on the use it’s smaller but I have a DPX hest and I really like it

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 21:17

I think it’s 3”

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 21:17

Otherwise cold steels drop forged series is relatively inexpensive

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 21:21

To be completely honest it just depends on what you’re using it for, as to what I would advise

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

20 May 2020 21:21

Where do y’all purchase your knives from?

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

20 May 2020 21:21

Just general use. Kit knife I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 21:21

Blade HQ, Amazon, sometimes you can find good deals on eBay

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

20 May 2020 21:24

That’s beautiful

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BlurRodriguez
(id: 705864364804276226)

20 May 2020 21:58

Where's the best place to get AR 9 (Glock compatible) stripped lower receivers?

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

20 May 2020 22:07

For general kit use under $50 I’d almost go with a gerber freeman guide or buck 877. $75 I’d go with a kbar or a buck nighthawk. I’m not super familiar but ESSE makes some really really good options under $100

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

20 May 2020 22:53

Found a pretty solid Buck 877 that looks good

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Abe Clark
(id: 705513698999140464)

20 May 2020 22:55

Okay I’m between the Buck 877 and the Schrade Tanto

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

20 May 2020 22:55

Big second on ESEE if you can pull it, and mora if you can’t

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