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itll get about halfway then the extractor slips off

i didnt know if it was the extractor itself or the spring

take a pic of the extractor without a round in it

aight

also, do the cases look ok? like no scrapes on them after firing or anything?

spent case looks fine too

yeah my bet would be extractor spring for sure then

extractor looks fine as far as i can tell

its a bitch to get a good picture with the shitty focus

here maybe this one is better

yeah thats better

numrich gun parts most likely has the spring for it, the extractor looks find, but they likely have the extractor for a few bucks too if you want to replace bothj

what gun is it

its a remington model 514, mid 50s

nice little gun and its dead accurate from when ive shot it from what i can tell

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/174100D

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/76600A

i figured that was the problem but i wanted to get a second opinion

it says fitting required on the extractor what does that mean?

you might need to file something down a little bit if it doesnt fit just right

ah, seems like itll be a bitch to replace with such small parts

spring will be easy enough, I would bet you wont have to do anything to the extractor but if it were me id just order them both just in case

yeah i personally wouldmt like having to have that brand new looking part on a worn old bolt, kinda ruins the look but oh well if it works that kinda all that matters

honestly it would be hard to believe that the extractor is that worn on a 22.

well i mean it is from the 50s, no telling how many rounds have been put through it. but if it was the extractor would it not grab at all or just barely and not go halfway back before slipping?

if you wanna test it, hold the extractor in and eject a round. If it still slips off then its the extractor

just dont accidentally shoot it lol

i was using a spent round dont worry

and sometimes it doesnt grab at all

forgot to add that

@squidsoup0

but when it does only halfway eject i can hold down on it and it can eject

and sometimes it doesnt eject even when holding it

so it can slip off even if you hold the extractor all the way in?

if thats the case then id definitely order than new extractor with it.. and maybe take the bolt apart and make sure theres nothing stuck in there or something not letting it go in all the way

the extractor isnt taken apart with the rest of the bolt

its sepereate from the rest

to take the extractor apart you dont gotta take the bolt apart

oh, well if youve done that already then it sounds like it might actually be worn enough to need replacing. maybe material is worn away from the tip enough that it barely grabs the rim

thats what ive been thinking, my grandpa ran by and i asked him he also thinks its the extractor, said the spring felt fine

yeah he mustve shot the shit out of that thing

i asked my dad and he said its been like that as long as he can remember

you could probably file part of it down to let it close further into the bolt in the mean time

whatever part of it stops it from moving further inward you could take a tiny bit off until it extracts, it looks like theres still room left at the tip to move further onto the rim

could be that whoever did the fitting on the original didnt get it quite right

i dunno bout filing part of it down, i dont have a file, i have some sandpaper which would probably work, so maybe the bolt and extractor is just fine, it just was never fitted right?

if its been like that forever then that could be. One way or another its the extractor or spring though. should just be a couple minutes work and the only risk is having to replace the extractor anyway. Its not gonna cause any damage to anything else though.

well if it already doesnt extract i cant make it any worse

exactly, if it was mine id do it lol. just make sure you figure out which surface is the one that hits the bolt and keeps it from moving inward further

can ya explain what you mean, im no expert on gun smithin and all

so, when the spring is pressing on the extractor, its pushing it inward toward the center of the bolt. theres a surface on the extractor the touches the bolt keeping it from moving inward further. if you take some of that surface off, the extractor will be able to move in a little further, letting the hook on the extractor grab more of the case

rim*

my guess would be this surface

i took the bolt out and manually held a case in and it looks like it doesnt reach all the way to the back of the extractor

see this unused part of the extactor hook, that is how far you need it to go in further when taking that surface down

might need to open it in a browser to see it close enough

so 22 shorts supposedly work better than longs

i havent tested it

since 22s are blowback, that could be because it doesnt create enough pressure to expand the brass into the chamber, so the pressure from the round is just pushing the case out by itself. But I would test that first.

i think that covers just about anything it could possibly be lol. Go down the list and see what works

im gonna get some shorts tommorow and test those in it and ill let ya know

cool, sounds good. Let me know how it goes

im curious what its gonna be now

Next couple parts ordered. Vltor a5 tube and 3.8 buffer, and geissele rifle length spring

Nice man

For some reason the vltor 3.8 is back ordered everywhere like 8+ months but i found out they use mil spec weights, so I got the next size up. Gonna swap the weights and keep the tungsten ones handy

That’ll work. Vltor A5 is the way for sure

Gonna see if anyone around me drills and pins gas blocks. From looking around, it seems it's cheaper to pay a pro than it is to buy an slr jig

Anyone know if I should be buying a rifle in 300 Norma or 338 Norma vs 300 win mag and 338 lapua with the military transitioning their cartridges?

300 wm is hard to beat

And 338 Lapua is pretty good

But the Norma calibers are better

And apparently have military support moving forward

Since the military just adopted norma, it might be the way to go. People who are into long range would know more though

338 Norma is basically 338 lapua optimized

Not sure on 300 tho

.mil uses both so 🤷🏻‍♂️

They’re transitioning from it tho

.300wm and .338 Lapua are likely easier to find and easier to find reloading components for

For now

That’s basically brass only tho

They use the same bullets

Usually

300win mag is going to be around for a good while. And either way, in the quantities they make it for .mil, it doesn’t make it much cheaper civ side

Good point, just wondering if 300 Norma is that much better and has the potential to make it more common

Aren’t the 300 Norma rifles a sockcum contract anywats?

Or am I thinking of something else

Yes but big army and maybe marine corps picked them up too

But somebody kept old calibers I think

Marine corps is running all of it rn IIRC, except 300norma, fairly certain that’s socom/usasoc exclusive?

300win mag is widely used

Then .338, then 300norma

And honestly the difference between any of those doesn’t justify the mil price of buying new rifles, Ammo, SL3, gauges, parts, tools, etc

True

Just read up on it a bit and 300 Norma is 338 Norma necked down to take 308 bullets

More compared to 338 than 300 win mag

Pushing a 230 Gn bullet 3000 FPS

If you don’t have to, I wouldn’t stick to mil calibers tbh, for long gun stuff