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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 6]

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

31 May 2020 05:16

yeah

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

31 May 2020 05:16

everything on the pistol is really good according to reviews etc

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BigRed1
(id: 296740187512504321)

31 May 2020 05:20

Yup.. i know whats going in my lipseys wish list for when they are in stock again.. lmao

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BigRed1
(id: 296740187512504321)

31 May 2020 05:20

I needed a shop gun.. guess this is it...

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Flakston
(id: 283018715287781376)

31 May 2020 05:41

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Thatotherguy
(id: 648180483141795842)

31 May 2020 05:41

Kit

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

31 May 2020 10:00

Anyone wore UFPRO Striker or p40 pantaloons?

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

31 May 2020 10:01

Getting slimmer and gonna be able to wear my cryes soon, kinda want some decent pants in the meantime.

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css_jacob
(id: 377673202492637185)

31 May 2020 20:37

Any tips for mounting a pressure activated light cable on a sbr?

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css_jacob
(id: 377673202492637185)

31 May 2020 20:37

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

31 May 2020 20:39

Oh gosh

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

31 May 2020 20:40

Is that light even gonna stay together a full mag?

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css_jacob
(id: 377673202492637185)

31 May 2020 20:42

😂

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

31 May 2020 20:43

Look into the streamlight HL-X rail mount, fairly cheap and good. And cloud defense makes a pressure pad mount

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

31 May 2020 22:19

Zipties and electrical tape.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

31 May 2020 22:20

Fold it along the smooth part between the top and right rail, then lay it over the top on the top pic rail, and lay it along to where you can naturally press the pressure pad.

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

31 May 2020 22:20

Once it's laid out, secure it with zipties and electrical tape

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

31 May 2020 22:57

I actually don’t like pressure pads on my white light

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

31 May 2020 22:58

Constant on lights just make you a target.

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

31 May 2020 22:58

I turn it on and off with my thumb since it’s right there

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

31 May 2020 23:06

My pressure pad is set to temporary only

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

31 May 2020 23:07

Serviceable lights should have that option

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

31 May 2020 23:08

When I get home I’ll post light setup things

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thisshitwildaf
(id: 690305463933468712)

31 May 2020 23:29

The new normal

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12gable
(id: 463492923699363862)

31 May 2020 23:37

So I came into many large capacitors and I need some help deciding should I make a 50 cal coilgun? or a couple EMP grenades? Or both? I have a background in mechanical and electric engineering

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

31 May 2020 23:46

@Jon Irenicus I I have UF pro. I love them! If you're willing to spend the money get them. The knee pads will come in handy, and are very comfortable.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

31 May 2020 23:46

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

31 May 2020 23:46

A coilgun is a bit more realistic. It takes some serious power to emp anything further than a few inches away. Definitely not grenade size. More like the size of a news camera

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

31 May 2020 23:48

even with a coilgun, you won't be doing much more than punching holes in empty pop cans

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dookiepie
(id: 706627188614627488)

31 May 2020 23:49

Anyone have experience with shellback plates and carriers? Trustworrhy?

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

31 May 2020 23:50

the carriers are fine

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

31 May 2020 23:50

but idk about the plates

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

31 May 2020 23:50

i would get hesco or hoplite

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 00:21

I'd say Hoplite over Hesco Not because Hesco is bad but because Hesco is British TLDR: Fuck. The. Crown.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

01 Jun 2020 00:22

hoplite is what i went with

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 00:25

Yeah but I can't turn down a chance to say "fuck the crown"

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

01 Jun 2020 00:26

idk the us military uses hesco so one sale here or there wont matter

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 00:27

They do make good products but fuck the crown

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 01:06

Hesco is much higher quality than hoplite. Hoplite, rather LTC is serviceable but not as good as brands such as hesco, paraclete, and protech

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 01:07

Of course it varies plate to plate. Hesco has budget options to, but you're not going to get Hesco 4800 quality out of a hoplite / ltc plate

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

01 Jun 2020 01:15

Any suggestions on a inexpensive but effective chest rig? I’m not looking for a plate carrier, just something to hold a few mags for my primary and secondary

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 01:18 edited: 2020-06-01T01:18:17.936+00:00

Spiritus systems bank robber. Very minimal but inexpensive and good quality

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 01:23

Bank robber is sweet, that’s my current grab and go

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

01 Jun 2020 01:24

haily strategic does good ones too

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 Jun 2020 01:50

Though about getting a slickster and running a Hailey chest rig on it.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

01 Jun 2020 01:53

would be great

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 01:53

I’m sure that will work

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

01 Jun 2020 01:53

could wear it under a sweat shirt and no one would see it

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 01:53

Ehhhhhhhhh

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

01 Jun 2020 01:53

well minus the chest rig

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 01:56

I know you aren’t poor @Sparrow

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

01 Jun 2020 01:57

I mean, I have some poor stuff, but I don't buy poor anymore, no.

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

01 Jun 2020 02:13

Thanks ma dudes

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 02:14

Do I have dumb for opting out of plates

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 02:21

Yes

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

01 Jun 2020 02:22

I want plates I just am not going to buy them until I can invest in a great set

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 02:22

Thats reasonable

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

01 Jun 2020 02:25

I figure being faster on my feet is better than being weighed down by heavy plates that may or may not work

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 02:26

Mobility is super important. Especially for these kinds of events were seeing

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:11

I’ve been reading a bit on the Hoplite stuff lately. Apparently they’re rebranding or some shit. Might be complete horseshit made by people but hurt by Lymans views. Also mentioned that the products they get from LTC are “grade C” or some shit, which is economy but not as good as the “grade A or B”. Could also be horse shit. Tried googling the grades and couldn’t find anything. I have some swimmers from them but I’ve switched back to my HESCO 4800s for the time being until I can get some more clarification. I will point out that a year long sale price is not really a sale since other retailers of the same LTC products sell for around the same price. And some have said that their week to ship times are bogus. I got mine after a month and didn’t care but I can see someone without armor getting a bit peeved at it.

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:11

All very recent shit from r/tactical gear. So take with a grain of salt.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:13 edited: 2020-06-01T03:13:35.078+00:00

Hoplite has always just been a drop shipper for LTC, and they never tried to hide that. there’s nothing inherently bad about it, and LTC is supposed to make NIJ acceptable armor. But it would be cheaper to just buy from them and avoid the weirdness surrounding hoplite

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:31

Isn't Hoplite more of a armor designer and distributor, since they have no in house manufacturing capabilities

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:32

Not even, they just buy armor from LTC and resell it

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:34

Fair take, I'm not sure why I even rep Hoplite or any armor anymore since I don't run any

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:35

They might have some exclusives through LTC, which I guess they could have input too.

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:36

I say designer since lyman holds at least some credit for designing the line HASPs they sell as well as a couple up coming projects

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:37

Fair enough

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:37

I don’t have any hate for hoplite, although I’m not in the bandwagon that some facebook pages are with them haah

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:39

I'm looking forward to their upcoming full body panels, arms, legs, chest with neck guard, it looks really promising

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:40

Eww, I’ll keep my mobility, thanks.

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:42

Ye, but for room clearing it would be a nice thing to have

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:44

Nah still fuck that. If I know I’ll be FISHn I’ll stick side plates in. If I was purposefully gonna do that, I’d consider shoulder plates at max

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:49

I'm not gonna say I dislike armor or that it's useless for me, but it's a distant third or fourth consideration by my playbook

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:50

I can understand that. I have my kit sorted well enough to run armor easily

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:53

I mean I can get a plate carrier and slot it in under my chest rig but it's not really doing me much service currently

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:54

I almost always wear my armor as concealed as possible

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:55

Even with the highest quality stand alone plates and extra truma pads you are still gonne be knocked out of a fight for a few moments, not ideal for solos

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:56

I mean it’s better than dying lmao

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:56

I do enough PT and have spent enough time in it to feel comfortable moving with it

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 03:57

Death is preferable to capture, besides they are just gonna double tap your ass anyway

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:58

My fcpc is the only thing I run side plates in and it’s for breaching only

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:58

Slickster for under the shirt, strandhogg for full kit

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:58

Some anon said it best

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:58

Square up with the target and your gtg

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:58

FCPC is on my list to try

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:59

Squaring up gay tho

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 03:59

And Double taps don’t defeat armor

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:59

It’s not bad, definitely improved the underflap that retains the plate. By a little.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 03:59

Hard plates absorb all the impact of a round. You won't see any backface deformation until several rounds hit in the same place or a round over its rating hits and doesn't break through.

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 03:59 edited: 2020-06-01T03:59:56.283+00:00

Having your rifle shouldered exposes your sides anyways 😂😂😂

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 04:00

You may be able to feel getting hit in a hard plate, but it'll be less than the recoil of a rifle distributed across the entire plate by my guess

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 04:00

For sure

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 04:00

Not advice on kit but take an AR500 plate and wear it then have your friend hit you in the chest with a hammer, it's gonna hurt a helluva lot more than expexted

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 04:01

If you have soft armor, you're gonna want a trauma pad though. That shit is nasty if you get hit

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 04:01

Man my soft armor got all mildew-y and shit

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 04:02

I figure there's no reason to run soft unless you're trying to completely conceal it for whatever reason.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

01 Jun 2020 04:02

I can completely conceal hard rifle plates if I can wear a jacket

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 04:03

High profile court cases seem to see them a lot

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

01 Jun 2020 04:03

Soft armor with plates inserted for the stab and fragmentation protection along with front and back rifle protection

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