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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 6]

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:41

855A1 is technically AP, as are black tip though 🤷‍♂️

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:41

Of course their definition of ap is fucked so there's a few rounds you can't buy anyway even though they're not armor piercing, like m855a1

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:42

I can get A1... the issue is if the distributor found out my guy was selling them to me they would dump him

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:43

You wanna talk about dumb, limiting class lasers to civilians

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:44

Because of a1's construction, it fits their definition of ap. It's just a lead free, higher pressure m855 for the most part. Penetrates barriers better and gets better ballistics out of short barrels, but destroys barrels fast

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:44

Yeah, that's why I keep mine in the ammo can.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:45

Eventually I need to pick up some more good ammo but for now I just have green tip in my pc because it's the cheapest barrier blind stuff there is

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:45

I'm less concerned with penetrating armor and more with objects like cars and walls... people with good armor is actually rare by the numbers.

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:46

Look at all these riots, how many have you seen in PC?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:47

The only people in pc's who aren't police are busy providing medical aid or washing graffiti off of stuff

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:47

Exactly

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:47

Or protecting businesses

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:48

That's why I'm leaning towards special threat plates. Anyone who has anything hotter than 5.56 is probably not going to shoot me.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:48

Granted I don't plan on putting myself in a scenario where I'd get shot at but

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:49

Yeah, luckily so far the rioters haven't been shooting much

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:50

Even the cops don't carry anything special, and they mostly run short barrels

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:55

I'm glad to be in Oklahoma, away from major cities right now. There's talk of riots moving into the suburbs

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:55

I'm in Delaware, it came to the suburbs yesterday morning

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:56

I'm actually in a rural area south of the main cities and we had cops sitting in the center square if town and 15-20 at the local Walmart

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:56

Both malls in the state got hit

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:56

And groups were just driving around to random shopping centers looting.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 13:56

People like to talk about fuck around and find out, but if I'm at work, there's Jack shit I can do about rioters breaking into my house

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 13:57

I took off work today

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 14:00

Eventually when I have my career going and a house that I own, I wanna fortify it. Long screws in the strike plates, shatter proof windows, security system, the works

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:01

The best thing with windows is the film... cheap enough to do on rentals, and works good

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 14:07

I'm living in an older house right now while I take class. It's mostly built like a rock but the windows are old. Like, wood on wood sliding windows with single panes. Built around the 50s or so

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:09

The film is basically window tint...

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:10

Everything around here is older farmhouse style, even in town

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 14:10

How much does this stuff typically run?

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:10

Luckily my place has had upgraded windows installed.

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:12

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.amazon.com/Security-Window-Film-Wide-Roll/dp/B004LDBPY2&ved=2ahUKEwiq3K7s5eDpAhXIhXIEHdG1AisQFjAMegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2B7ADi6UEeopq-zSwQwFCc&cshid=1591020694698

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 14:21

I'll have to keep that in mind when I get my own place. I'll only be living at my current place until around December at the latest. I'll definitely want to get double pane windows too. My parents got some and it cut their electricity bill by a massive chunk

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:21

Yeah, they definitely make a difference

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 14:23

I started thinking about shatterproof windows right after lemp happened. Supposedly they threw a flash through his window

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

01 Jun 2020 14:37

Shutters that can be closed and locked from the inside

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:43

That film will stop that, not on single pane stuff, too easy to just take the whole window out

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:43

But newer vinyl windows for sure

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 14:46

My parents used to have shutters. They attract wasp nests like crazy

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

01 Jun 2020 14:51

I mean on the inside

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

01 Jun 2020 14:51

Not on the outside of the house

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Poisonwolf
(id: 126934123754422273)

01 Jun 2020 14:53

https://ferroconcepts.com/collections/all-carriers

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:55

They've been sold out if stuff for a while now though

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 14:55

Same with first spear

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 15:04

Early bird gets the worm

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Sky Pentraico
(id: 427580286960795649)

01 Jun 2020 15:57

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EDDSkitz
(id: 470383814544326666)

01 Jun 2020 16:01

I have friends in HK due to some things I do... don't believe the mainstream media about them... they are the equivalent of antifa. They say "democracy" but antifa also says they want "freedom" too... only their flavor

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

01 Jun 2020 16:56

I have a hard time believing the HK protesters that don’t want anything to do with communist China are somehow communist ANTIFA

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

01 Jun 2020 16:57 edited: 2020-06-01T16:57:42.254+00:00

I do bet there’s a shit load of government spies that start shit on purpose to justify more force from the Chinese government

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 17:29

What do you do for work?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 17:33

Do you need mags and medical or is it just for emergency protection?

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

01 Jun 2020 18:36

And budget ^

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Shane_NA6
(id: 131233451390009344)

01 Jun 2020 20:15

Hey does anybody have that pic of the AR manufacturer tiers

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Vern 🦑
(id: 200794193608704000)

01 Jun 2020 20:16

There any good looking carriers in Black Multi for 11x14 plates? 🤔

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 20:26

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 20:26

Both have problems but it's a good place to start

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 20:27

I'd typically say if you want a serviceable rifle, go bcm or solgw. If you want good but don't want to build, go knights, radian, lmt. I personally only custom build mine

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 20:30

The second image has major problems but the creator knows hodge exists so there's that

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

01 Jun 2020 20:44

I'd say ask @Crye Salesman They know way more about this stuff than I do

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DirtyBird
(id: 663658150234423319)

01 Jun 2020 20:59

Cross machine and tool could probably go up one and stag could go up one or two. I would trust stag over ruger and sw as far as primaries go

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Shane_NA6
(id: 131233451390009344)

01 Jun 2020 21:21

@Confused my fucking guy ty

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Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

01 Jun 2020 23:35 edited: 2020-06-01T23:35:44.466+00:00

Wilson should be A imo but that’s because I’m shilling for Arkansas. They get an F for uppity-ness though

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Z3R0
(id: 438155772719792129)

01 Jun 2020 23:46

I would probably rank rock river arms around the same as aero. Also PSA should be bottom tier With anderson.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

02 Jun 2020 00:20

I've seen both anderson and psa. Anderson is worse

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

02 Jun 2020 00:20

I know, hard to be worse than psa

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Z3R0
(id: 438155772719792129)

02 Jun 2020 00:29

Fair enough

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boogalorianboi
(id: 711396255196250183)

02 Jun 2020 00:38

Wheres diamonback on that?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 Jun 2020 00:39

Low

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 Jun 2020 00:39

PSAissshhhh

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boogalorianboi
(id: 711396255196250183)

02 Jun 2020 00:39

I figured lmao

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boogalorianboi
(id: 711396255196250183)

02 Jun 2020 00:40

J got one pretty cheap but I have about 1000 rounds through it and have no issues and awesome groups

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 Jun 2020 00:42

Glad it’s working for you

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

02 Jun 2020 00:47 edited: 2020-06-02T00:52:02.957+00:00

where would triarc and zev be on that list :thinkRoll:

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

02 Jun 2020 00:48

Thats the thing they dont have good qc just because 1 out of 500k wors means next to nothing

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

02 Jun 2020 00:48

Also tbe bottom of your mag well is flat

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

02 Jun 2020 00:49

It should have 0 flat points and be chamfered to help with reloads

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

02 Jun 2020 00:49

My anderson is the same way

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

02 Jun 2020 00:49

They are not just as good

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Mgrad20
(id: 715061817478479953)

02 Jun 2020 01:37

Views on 6.8 for the boog? I bought a stag arms ar-15 in 6.8 SPC. Is it good or am I fucked?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 Jun 2020 01:43

Stag arms, Oof. 6.8 is fine, you just can’t share ammo with the homies

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

02 Jun 2020 01:47

hey crye where would triarc and zev be on that list in your opinion?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

02 Jun 2020 01:53

Triarc is either the top tier, or one below that, depending how you like to rank these things. Zev would probably be one below then as far as zev complete guns, but it should be noted they are an OEM manufacture for other high-tier brands, like Hodge

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

02 Jun 2020 02:32

Zev's forged receivers seem about as good as forged can get. No wobble and has a hole drilled for wedge lock rails with anti rotation pins

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

02 Jun 2020 02:33

I've got my eye on the billet noveske receivers though. They look good but not edgy like some other billet receivers

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

02 Jun 2020 04:24 edited: 2020-06-02T04:24:42.044+00:00

Checkmate NVG users, I don't need an IR illuminator

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

02 Jun 2020 04:26

let me just mortgage my house

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

02 Jun 2020 04:26

so i can afford these

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

02 Jun 2020 04:26

Those aren't even a super high end set either, and they are used

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

02 Jun 2020 04:27

😩 💦

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Bender
(id: 188041857773731841)

02 Jun 2020 04:32

jesus fuck

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

02 Jun 2020 04:37

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

02 Jun 2020 04:38

Here is the mega budget version of a Fused ENVG

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

02 Jun 2020 04:38

Budget my ass

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

02 Jun 2020 04:38

god thats sexy though

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[AZ] GunGrabbingMemes
(id: 196345363853082624)

02 Jun 2020 05:18

hey guys

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[AZ] GunGrabbingMemes
(id: 196345363853082624)

02 Jun 2020 05:18

if anyone wants affordable armor that isn't steel and is NIJ certified

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[AZ] GunGrabbingMemes
(id: 196345363853082624)

02 Jun 2020 05:18

https://rmadefense.com/product/level-iv-hard-armor-plate-model-1155/ these are $126 shipped per plate with code BOONIEHATTIP (10% off)

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[AZ] GunGrabbingMemes
(id: 196345363853082624)

02 Jun 2020 05:18

@marcuspinson if you want a helmet

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[AZ] GunGrabbingMemes
(id: 196345363853082624)

02 Jun 2020 05:19

Galvion Viper is good at a budget

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[AZ] GunGrabbingMemes
(id: 196345363853082624)

02 Jun 2020 05:19

https://www.galvion.com/products/viper-a3-high-cut-helmet only $380

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[AZ] GunGrabbingMemes
(id: 196345363853082624)

02 Jun 2020 05:19

@marcuspinson well they're 10x12's. You can get the smaller sizes in the Level III+ plates

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