Left Coast Discord Watch

a project by Left Coast Right Watch News

Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 7]

For the sharing and discussion of weapons, armor, tactics, equipment, etc. Server #rules apply.

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:25

Stripped it for cleaning and when reassembling something went terribly wrong (image is sending pretty bad signal atm)

Message permalink: 719029333100068924

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:27

Gun is a taurus g2c .40 if that helps, I've only had it for a bit got it as a cheap home gun

Message permalink: 719029635404267552

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:29

Message permalink: 719030311555432458

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 03:31

The barrel appears to be logged in there

Message permalink: 719030751970197524

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:19 edited: 2020-06-07T04:20:05.632+00:00

Not to be cheeky but Taurus pistols aren't serviceable. They have an incredibly high rate of failure, and while I'd say they're only useful for the range, because of their unreliability they could potentially cause serious injury due to housing small explosions as guns do.

Message permalink: 719042802616369183

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:30

Yeah, it was an impulse buy cause cheap gun didn't do much research till after I bought it, and pretty instant regret, I was okay after no FTE or any small malfunction that way, but when it jams up like this during a routine I'm probably just trading it in now lol

Message permalink: 719045655372234793

The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:32

Heh, when I got the EC9 I used to have the guy kept being like “Taurus makes great stuff you should buy it” and I was like look, I’m already being cheap but spare me

Message permalink: 719046065868767292

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:34

It pains me that gun shop employees often give the worst advice

Message permalink: 719046522624540672

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:34

Yeah the shop I bought from were kinda recommended taurus as a cheap fairly reliable brand, I only know of their revolvers which are decent quality, so I said hell why not

Message permalink: 719046637133234256

The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:35

Like the g2 isn’t the worst gun they make but it’s far from as good as other things at the price point

Message permalink: 719046888602730557

The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:35

I went with a ruger ec9 cause they’re actually a serviceable ccw

Message permalink: 719046979870785587

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

I'm gonna put together a mee6 command with pistol information like I have for ammo and armor

Message permalink: 719047045872091196

The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

Not as good as the 3913 I use now by any means

Message permalink: 719047062141796356

The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

That’s actually a good idea

Message permalink: 719047094744252446

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:36

Funny you say that @The_Black_Knight my carry pistol is a CCP

Message permalink: 719047205088133201

[PA]Bones
(id: 592623516441116682)

07 Jun 2020 04:38

But yeah this g2c is a real turd I'm coming to realize 😂

Message permalink: 719047609259524186

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:39

Tldr Good: Glock Sig H&K Walther CZ S&W M&P 2.0 Some others probably not listed Bad: Taurus Ruger Springfield

Message permalink: 719047796124024833

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 04:40

we need a new Tier AR chart

Message permalink: 719048073074049114

The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:40

Shield is about as bottom dollar as I’ll suggest to people these days

Message permalink: 719048177998626816

The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

07 Jun 2020 04:40

I’ve just always heard to avoid them like the plague

Message permalink: 719048235729289217

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:41

Eh most serviceable striker fired pistols are similar enough in quality that it's a non issue. Glock always works but the trigger sucks. ppq and vp9 have the best trigger. Vp9 has best ergonomics.

Message permalink: 719048410421919744

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:42

Aftermarket glock gets into a strange place. Some parts when installed correctly are reliable. Most aren't. Best bet is to not touch the internals and just deal with the trigger.

Message permalink: 719048741113298944

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:44

How to modify a glock 19 Put a trijicon rmr on it Put a surefire x3000 or streamlight tlr1 on it Done

Message permalink: 719049230747959338

BugsyBaldwin
(id: 704929763176874004)

07 Jun 2020 04:47

6000+ rounds through my Jericho and not a single issue. Same with my Vz58 probably 8000+ rounds through it even in adverse conditions and never a FTE or FTF or anything

Message permalink: 719049761080213634

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:48

any time I hear X rounds not a single issue

Message permalink: 719050125908902038

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:48

idk anything about IWI other than galil and tavor are cool

Message permalink: 719050216401141790

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:49

Compared to other striker fired pistols, and definitely hammer fired pistols, glock triggers feel like a staple gun. They work though.

Message permalink: 719050469665800284

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:50

In the end, that's all you really need out of a carry pistol

Message permalink: 719050547977519216

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:56

Just remember, changing internal parts can make a glock's reliability tank. If I were to pick a simple setup to hand to literally anyone with functioning hands, it'd probably be Glock 19 Trijicon RMR Surefire X300U PHLster Spotlight

Message permalink: 719052213967781888

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:57

It'll serve almost everyone just fine

Message permalink: 719052382352179202

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 04:57

does sig have a bit more leeway for changing triggers?

Message permalink: 719052468188872704

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 04:57

Im going to look at the P320 eventually

Message permalink: 719052519359250494

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 04:59

Haven't shot one myself but I don't see any reason to change the trigger. It should work fine out of the factory, and with something without an external safety that you're going to have pointed at your leg/dick all day, it may just be the safest route to not mess with it. Glock certainly has the largest aftermarket, and there are triggers and other components that are completely reliable if you have someone who knows what they're doing install it, but I'm paranoid.

Message permalink: 719053005789462540

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:05

yeah the p320 is what I would put on my belt when I take some classes so I dont need to mess with it alot

Message permalink: 719054282380410890

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:07

I saw that...

Message permalink: 719055024810098848

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:08

wasnt it real expensive

Message permalink: 719055060113293393

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:09

😂

Message permalink: 719055497956819004

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:15 edited: 2020-06-07T05:16:04.951+00:00

now you know what the real struggle is... trying not to build a gun that has all these cool parts even if it doesn't really help out reliability if not reducing it 😂 its not really worth all that extra money unless you are doing like competitions or something imo @Potatoes O'Reilly

Message permalink: 719057049018695720

Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

07 Jun 2020 05:26

I wish all guns were unserialized :SadChaton:

Message permalink: 719059683352248341

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:31

I heard VZ58

Message permalink: 719060924387950602

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:31

gang gang

Message permalink: 719060950610608168

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:34

First I’ve heard about jigs

Message permalink: 719061688996855888

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 05:34

$150 🤭

Message permalink: 719061753098403941

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:12

Upper Lower Hand guard Grip Stock Buffer tube Trigger Bcg Barrel Gas stuff Muzzle Sights/optic Sling stuff

Message permalink: 719071186809782303

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:12

Parts kit

Message permalink: 719071267663118386

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:13

I think you covered it with the complete upper

Message permalink: 719071418863845487

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:13

Tell him to see if whoever he buys from sells matching lower for fit and gucci points

Message permalink: 719071568101244971

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:15

Gotcha, should’ve guessed. You know of any quality lowers that look like the radian weapons lower?

Message permalink: 719071908540448808

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

80%

Message permalink: 719072156675473433

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

Message permalink: 719072176245833748

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

Doesn’t have to look exact

Message permalink: 719072208038789122

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:16

That pmag mag well just does it for me

Message permalink: 719072328318844998

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:18

Vanilla is fine, just want one with a bit more flare.

Message permalink: 719072652521635871

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:22

That’s pretty cool. I could have swore I came across a site selling 80% lowers that looked similar to the one above. If I could order one of them and get it engraved, or better yet, get 2 like that, I’d be more than happy. Gonna build a couple of safe fillers cause I sold a lot of my stuff to get my first house/cover closing

Message permalink: 719073671095779370

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:22

there's a few good sites that sell 80% lowers and parts for a good price

Message permalink: 719073865162031185

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:23

the site that I know of mainly is ghostguns

Message permalink: 719074109023191091

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:24

https://www.ghostguns.net/

Message permalink: 719074245728141354

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:24

I hear that too

Message permalink: 719074318054719508

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:25

it wouldn't be a shock to me, but some pals have gotten shit from them and they say they're good

Message permalink: 719074416436314122

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:25

rather cheap kits too, which is good

Message permalink: 719074487596875786

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:26

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-80-polymer-gen2-lower-receiver-prod71256.aspx?avad=194130_d1b3a7019&aid=155690&cm_mmc=affiliate-_-Itwine-_-Avantlink-_-Custom+Link&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=Avantlink&utm_content=NA&utm_campaign=Itwine

Message permalink: 719074704471752795

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:26

Don’t really want a polymer lower though. But that’s kinda what I *think* I remember stumbling across a few weeks back

Message permalink: 719074913952071681

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:28

poly lowers don't last very long from what I hear

Message permalink: 719075319377821707

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:28

Found another one that’s anodized

Message permalink: 719075354517700688

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:28

Thank you google images

Message permalink: 719075378982944841

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:31

loolks like a good selection

Message permalink: 719076071844085790

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:33

I'm unsure on how I feel on the AR-47

Message permalink: 719076539244871760

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:33

I think 5.56 AK's are neat

Message permalink: 719076642168766514

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 06:34

I'm a little iffy on 7.62 AR's tho

Message permalink: 719076718945501214

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 06:57

Would a jig kit that comes with a 80% poly lower work for a forged lower?

Message permalink: 719082472356184065

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:01

Or is it not the same and I need to buy one separately

Message permalink: 719083474006442045

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 07:11

I really wouldn't recommend polymer lowers unless it's gwacs or wwsd2020. Other stuff out there isn't designed around the material and tested enough to ensure it'll work

Message permalink: 719086205463035935

Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 07:12

Even aluminum lowers can have problems cracking in certain areas. Polymer is another beast entirely

Message permalink: 719086395272069190

Soulraiser
(id: 161290904802426880)

07 Jun 2020 07:12

The jigs that come with poly lowers are usually plastic and designed to be one time use. I'd get a metal jig if you're doing a metal lower.

Message permalink: 719086407653785601

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:14

That answers my question

Message permalink: 719086799296921670

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:14

Figured I could save $100 by buying a jig kit for a polymer lower and a forged lower and finishing it that way. Not likely gonna happen now

Message permalink: 719086954620256310

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 07:15

Gonna check out gwacs now and see what they’ve got

Message permalink: 719087015479738388

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:32

he almost did what now?

Message permalink: 719091513199427597

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:33

they're nearly 2000 per rifle

Message permalink: 719091712386924564

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:33

are these some sort of hot shit?

Message permalink: 719091772470460477

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:36

some of these are over 2000 what the hell

Message permalink: 719092402026971234

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:38

like

Message permalink: 719092980937654293

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:39

one of their 15 models ranges from 1700-1900

Message permalink: 719093057479245825

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:39

their 10 builds are at the cheapest 2200

Message permalink: 719093120754516009

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

you know I kinda want to get an HK ar

Message permalink: 719093568249004053

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

but I don't have 5 mil in gold

Message permalink: 719093638306725988

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

and I haven't been responsible for any civilian massacres

Message permalink: 719093724898131998

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:41

so they won't sell to me

Message permalink: 719093744627875871

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 07:42 edited: 2020-06-07T07:42:53.598+00:00

HK only sells their good stuff to terrorist groups of various governmental legitimacy

Message permalink: 719093975859986453

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 09:37

Sounds like some Hodge tier stuff

Message permalink: 719122823515471924

Jon Irenicus
(id: 550902313313894411)

07 Jun 2020 09:38

Some people vouch for them with walls of text, others say it’s marked up stuff you can buy elsewhere for less

Message permalink: 719123002071056416

thereisonlyoneMAUZER
(id: 655577522938839040)

07 Jun 2020 13:24

POF .308s are worth it. They have a unique form factor similar to an AR15, with the capability of an AR10

Message permalink: 719180085206450197

thereisonlyoneMAUZER
(id: 655577522938839040)

07 Jun 2020 13:25

I wouod not buy a POF 556 though

Message permalink: 719180153791709214

thereisonlyoneMAUZER
(id: 655577522938839040)

07 Jun 2020 13:25

Also, I wouldnt put DD that high anymore

Message permalink: 719180252181692467

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 16:14

I don't know much about DD stuff, wonder why the person who made this put them at S tier

Message permalink: 719222744092377150

Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 16:17

Probably because the military “uses” them. Except not reallllyyyyyy

Message permalink: 719223638531768350

«grëžgöv»
(id: 556222219718492170)

07 Jun 2020 16:20

I wouldn't think they'd be used by military

Message permalink: 719224160223756289

Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 16:24

Well the MK18

Message permalink: 719225203976175659

Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 16:24

But most of those are just the rail afaik

Message permalink: 719225244644278343

Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:13

Dd goes with anderson

Message permalink: 719282987035787285