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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 7]

For the sharing and discussion of weapons, armor, tactics, equipment, etc. Server #rules apply.

Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:21

Not the best trigger or sights, as expected of Glocks, but 15rds in that small package oughta make up for *something*.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:22

Versus the typical 6 or 10.

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(TX)DarkWingDuck
(id: 636361919384780811)

09 Jun 2020 21:22

Ight thanks Monica

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(TX)DarkWingDuck
(id: 636361919384780811)

09 Jun 2020 21:22

Ill check it out

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:23

Remember to locate some brick-n-mortar to fingerfuck some guns alongside it.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:24

No need to limit yourself to just one suggestion.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:24

~~I know those CZ P-10s sure feel nice in the hand.~~

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(TX)DarkWingDuck
(id: 636361919384780811)

09 Jun 2020 21:27

Oh gonna give it the ole uncle joe, just nees something i can hide easily and i have smaller hands than trump

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:28

I mean, I run a Glock 19 with small hands and I can *sorta* get away with it.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:28

You got those dedicated CC pants and sturdy gun belt, right?

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:29

The problem with a pack on the back of your PC, is that then wearing a assault pack, 3day pack, etc, on top of that is super uncomfortable

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:29

A size up from your current shit, with a shirt you can easily drape over the whole ensemble?

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:29

~~There's options for packs that mount directly onto the carrier, no?~~

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:29

@(TX)DarkWingDuck Glock 17. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:30

Yah @Cacoethes I was catching up on today’s earlier discussion of mini-assault packs

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:51

In any case, the 2010s are THE era for polymer striker-fired pistols. The market's flooded with them.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:51

Compacts, full-sizes, loooong bois, the choice is yours.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:51

It is a good decade to procure firearms.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:52

I would like to point out that it is now the 2020’s, but also yes it is

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:53

But also full size grip gang or gtfo

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:53

This golden era certainly hasn't ended yet.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:54

Not too much dramatic innovations, granted, but perfecting products is still a noble goal.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:55

>expecting an extra inch of barrel to make your 9mm projectile fit to be a bunker buster.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:55

Nay, compacts shall rule the day.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:55

Compacts are gay

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:55

You mean *subcompacts*.

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 21:55

Imagine having to hold your pinky out like you're sipping tea.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:55

I’m doing shit with my EDC that the SAS said you couldn’t do with an MP5 20 years ago lol

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 21:56

No I mean compacts are gay lol

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Cannibal1-1
(id: 301334027325931520)

09 Jun 2020 22:11

Subcompact or full size, no benefits to fucking around half way Same with ARs, go SBR or full 20" rifle

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 22:41

The AR thing I’ll disagree

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 22:41

There’s nuance to everything

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

09 Jun 2020 22:42

~~Muzzle velocity isn't everything, after all.~~

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 22:56 edited: 2020-06-09T22:56:33.25+00:00

*laughs in greater than 3,200FPS*

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 22:57

Today in celebrity deathmatch: Dude who thinks ar500 is just as guud Vs Boomer with a 220 swift

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 22:59

I’m just not that worried about people wearing AR500. There’s a correlation there usually

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:01

Really anyone with steel armor likely wouldn't be shooting at you in the first place assuming something bad happened to the current state of things

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 23:02

Ahahaha

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 23:02

Plenty of threepers with steel

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 23:02

And I’m sure they’ll pick like, the dumbest possible side

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:03

Something something being the three percent to stand up to the government.... aaand they're on their knees deep throating boot leather

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:03

Idk, maybe they'd just keep to themselves

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:04

I feel statistically anyone who'd be threatening me wouldn't be wearing armor, because they'd be a mugger

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 23:06

They would probably be guarding the ATF hq or some shit

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:10

If someone were to theoretically want to do something sketchy, I would think hard targets would be the last place a person who's put any amount of thought into it would want to hit

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 23:11

I mean

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

09 Jun 2020 23:11

Let’s just not lol

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:20

Hmm uhmmm, what caliber is best for putting holes in pop cans. That's all I shoot anyway, totally

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:21

*impatiently waits for my vltor buffer*

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

09 Jun 2020 23:22

Optics planet said 5-15 days so hopefully soon

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:10

um 300 win mag right

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:14

Definitely. Some good quality handmade 300 win mag and maybe a schmidt and bender scope. Those tin cans sitting on my fence post are done

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:16

heck ya

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:16

imagine taking a 30-06 ap round pulling it and putting it in a 300 win mag

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 01:17

Uhhhhh

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:17

probably wouldn't be accurate, even if it fits

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 01:19

I mean projos are projos

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Cacoethes
(id: 178985658981941248)

10 Jun 2020 01:20

Optics Planet's been overwhelmed. I waited over a month for an order I eventually cancelled and purchased elsewhere.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:20

as far as I'm aware, all the 30-06 black tip out there is wwii surplus. There's just a shitload of it out there. The only people who use it compete in CMP matches though

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 01:20

Yeah, you could do that actually @Mechromansir, they’re both just .30 cal projos so it could at least theoretically work

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:22

for some reason, black tip is more accurate than regular m1 garand 30-06. Still, very inaccurate compared to modern rounds, but impressive for a gun that old

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 01:23

I mean probably just because they measured the powder or seating depth more accurately

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:23

I read that it was because the core gave the round, which at the time was made very poorly to today's standards, a center of mass that was closer to the center

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:24

i know they are i realod

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:24

reload

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:24

i have 2 dillon xl 650 and an rcbs rockchucker

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:27

Reading that the black tip stuff was both heavier and manufactured to slightly higher standards

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:27

target shooters in the 50s and 60s supposedly referred to it as the poor mans match ammo

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 01:28

Wonder what FPS you could push that at tho @Mechromansir

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 01:29

What’s the grain on the black tip projos?

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:29

i am not sure but i would guess 168

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:30

163 to 168 apparently

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:32 edited: 2020-06-10T01:32:50.327+00:00

i could get 3026-32xx

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:35

3260 on rl16 is what i am seeing as the fastest

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:36

i bet lv4 body armor would die

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:36

Well level 4 is based on being able to stop a single black tip 30-06 round

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:36

yes i am aware

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:36

most can stop 2 or 3 so idk

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:37

well some day we might find out if i ever buy a 300 win mag or if my grand pa dies

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:38

However supposedly m993 can defeat it

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:39

well all i am saying is that is still .30 cal

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:39

could put it in 300 black or 30-06 or 300 win mag

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:42

30-06 black tip uses a steel core if I'm not mistaken, while m993 uses a tungsten carbide core

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:42

correct

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:42

https://www.cdvs.us/product/m-993-152-grain-tungsten-core-projectiles-these-are-surogate-projectiles-not-approved-for-test-labs-unit-price-is-per-projectile/

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:43

lmao 20usd per bullet

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

10 Jun 2020 01:44

I have a 24" bull barreled upper and I kinda want to cut it down to 18", would this be a decent idea?

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:44

what gun and cal

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

10 Jun 2020 01:45

.223 wylde AR upper

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:46

making ap ammo can potentially get you in a world of trouble though. Gotta have the right type of FFL, SOT, and keep track of every single round you make.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:46

loooongboi

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:46

hell cut it down to 16 gas system permitting

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:46

24" bull is good for bench rest competitions and basically nothing else

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:47

i did not know you needed an sot and ffl to make ap rounds thank you sir

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:47

i shall not do this

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:47

Apparently FFL 9, 10, or 11

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:47

yup not getting one

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:47

well unless i get a job at one

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 01:48

can i make tracers

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:48

Seems those ones are dealer of destructive devices, manufacturer/dealer of destructive devices, and importer/dealer of destructive devices respectively.

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