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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 7]

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Mechromansir
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10 Jun 2020 01:49

atf is no fun

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Confused
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10 Jun 2020 01:52

They sorta snuck it in. Because they only intended to ban AP ammo that can be fired from handguns before rifle caliber handguns were really a thing. When people started making rifle caliber handguns, like AR pistols, all AP ammo can technically be fired from a handgun, so it's all illegal unless it's grandfathered in like 30-06

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:53

They're just like, oh you want sbr's? Well no more ap ammo

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

10 Jun 2020 01:54

Yeah the 24" upper hasn't been very useful

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 01:55

What brand is it? Assuming it's a high quality match barrel, cutting it to 18" and threading it can make for one sweet marksman rifle

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Remnant
(id: 555965901040517120)

10 Jun 2020 01:59

https://midstatefirearms.com/24-SS-Fluted-Heavy-Bull-556-223-Wylde-Upper-Gen3-slim-rail-24ssupper.htm

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Remnant
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10 Jun 2020 01:59

One of these

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 01:59

Cutting down isn’t a terrible idea, just have a reputable shop do it

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:04

bubba has a hack saw

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:04

>.>

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:04

but yes dont mess it up have some one that has a good band saw do it and know how to measure

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:05

also has to be properly crowned. Threaded if you want

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Confused
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10 Jun 2020 02:06

m993 is almost exclusively used in machineguns

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:06

They're more intended for penetrating stuff like lightly armored vehicles

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Confused
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10 Jun 2020 02:06

or anything else between you and your target

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:07

any .338 lapua

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:08

if you have a license

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:09

i feel normal fmj .338 would do it tho

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:10

doubt it

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:10

it should it has such a larger projectile going so damn fast

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:10

watching a vid now

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:10

i also fell .408 cheytac

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:10

feel

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:11

did you see the damn fast part

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:11

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:12

Okay level 4 plates stop 338 but you might die anyway

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:12

the backface deformation is pretty crazy

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:12

what grn was the bullet

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:13

250gr sierra matchking at 3000 fps fired at 20 yards

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:13

ya thats pretty crazy

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:13

180 grain would be better for penetration

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:14

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:15

AND NO AR 15 probs does not support .338 lapua unless they have a bolt action upper for it

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:15

The further you're shooting, the less semi auto matters. The military is actually going back to bolt guns because by the time your round hits, you have another round chambered and you're waiting to see where the round lands

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:15

did they out law the bolt upper btw

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:15

Still makes sense for intermediate distances, but not if you're shooting at 1000 yards or further most of the time

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:16

also laupa brass is more expensive then 50bmg

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:16

but i can load them on a rock chucker

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:16

5o bmg is too long

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:17

338 lapua brass is probably manufactured to more exacting standards because it's a precision round. 50bmg isn't meant for precision

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:17

correct

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 02:17

> The further you're shooting, the less semi auto matters. The military is actually going back to bolt guns because by the time your round hits, you have another round chambered and you're waiting to see where the round lands @Confused uhhhh the M110 and CSASS are very real

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:17

lapua brass is some of the best made brass

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:18

lasts longer then normal brass

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Crye Salesman
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10 Jun 2020 02:18 edited: 2020-06-10T02:18:32.266+00:00

And the 107 was never meant to replace the mk13 and shit

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:19

The listed effective range of the m110 is what, 1000 yards? More of an intermediate between the m4 and higher power rifles. Granted there's so many variables in shooting past that range that idk if it's worth it

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:19

imo as a hunter any thing past 600 is too far

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:20

The designers of its replacement figured that if you can have another round chambered by the time your fired round hits, any extra moving parts just decrease reliability.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:20

yes this makes since but you wont allways be shooting that far

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:21

Which is why often times, sniper rifles are carried in a bag on their back while they hold an m4

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:21

then its fine

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:22

i only carry a primary and secondary this aint fucking cod

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:23

Depends on the mission. Sometimes they're carrying a regular rifle to be effective and switch when they get into position. Sometimes they're just carrying a long range rifle while everyone else is protecting them because they're a counter sniper for example

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:23

well you see i think of the world through the eyes of a hunter

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:23

if the deer start shooting back i am going to shit my self

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:24

that said if i were in a tactical mission where i was getting shot at i would still only have 2 guns

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:24

it just went from bubba mauser and a glock to ar 15 and a glock

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:24

also I got that wrong, replacement to the sr25 I think? Same rifle, different branch. idk

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 02:24

I’ve carried more than 2 guns out on calls plenty of times

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 02:25

CSASS is the new H&K army one.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:25

what guns

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:25

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/018/412/4a1.gif

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 02:25

the most i have carried is 3

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Crye Salesman
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10 Jun 2020 02:26

Pistol, M4 or 416, shotgun, SASS. Then crew served shit too.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 02:26

Yeee, it’s a new procurement thing. Army replacing the SR25 in some units

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 02:27

It’s an H&K 417 with a schmidty iirc

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:28

tbh all I know about the mrad is that it looks hot and flannel daddy shot it in a video

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 02:31

Yeah the marines just got the new 13, it sounds like they’re mostly ignoring the 40a6 since the new gun is so much better and the only advantage of the a6 is a few ounces iirc

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:44

It sounds like everyone does it at home. I haven't read much about the process but it's likely much cheaper to do large batches than individual ones

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:45

Plus there might be an ffl hassle

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 02:45

Idk

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:13

DC was also on fire so I'm not surprised

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[IL-LAKE]weinersinabun
(id: 167422023495057408)

10 Jun 2020 03:26

any reccomenmdations for a 308 hunting rifle or DMR? dont wannt go beyond $800. @ me

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Confused
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10 Jun 2020 03:30

Tikka

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:30

ruger american

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:30

isnt tikka over 800?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:30

Some of the fancier ones area

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:30

Are

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Crye Salesman
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10 Jun 2020 03:31

I would pick up a used Remington 700 probably

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Mechromansir
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10 Jun 2020 03:31

the tikka would be grat

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:31

weatherby

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:31

would be good too

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:31

i hate savage but thats me

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 03:32

I was just working on a savage today. Not a big fan

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:33

Also howa. They sell some nice barreled actions that you can throw in a chassis. From what I understand, the qc on the Remington just isn't there anymore but the parts support is, so if you find a used one it may be a good deal

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Crye Salesman
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10 Jun 2020 03:34

Yeah a howa barreled action is a decent idea

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:35

I was considering building one with a howa barreled action but decided to build another ar instead. My old one is about the right size for my fiance

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[IL-LAKE]weinersinabun
(id: 167422023495057408)

10 Jun 2020 03:36

thanks gents

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:36

i like that howa uses houge stocks tho

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:38

It was neat researching precision guns. There's stocks out there that cost twice what the rifle itself will, or more

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:39

yes its neat

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

10 Jun 2020 03:39

i want a Christenson

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:40

Looked into them and apparently their products are shit

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:43

Horrible bedding and the zero wanders wildly. Barrel touching the stock. The guys at christensen said they'd charge to fix it and sending it to a gunsmith would void the warranty

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Confused
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10 Jun 2020 03:52 edited: 2020-06-10T03:53:14.407+00:00

LSS gen 2 howa chassis, $450 Howa barreled action, under 400 if you get it at the right place. People report 1/2 moa with factory match ammo and sometimes under with hand rolled stuff but idk how much of that is people getting lucky with 3 shot groups instead of doing a full 10

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

10 Jun 2020 03:53

@Mechromansir you should read the snipers hide forum discussions on the Christensen

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[MI] LawlessHawk
(id: 705975254513614920)

10 Jun 2020 03:53

> any reccomenmdations for a 308 hunting rifle or DMR? dont wannt go beyond $800. @ me @[IL-LAKE]weinersinabun Remington 700 is your best bet. Barrels last a lifetime, action is reliable and relatively smooth.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:55

Barrel life always depends on round count. If you shoot a lot of precision rounds, you'll have to have the barrel changed eventually. Thankfully 308 will last you about twice as long as 6.5 creedmoor

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Confused
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10 Jun 2020 03:55 edited: 2020-06-10T03:56:07.808+00:00

Around 5-6k rounds for 308 until you start losing accuracy

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

10 Jun 2020 03:57

Still serviceable past that though

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