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Citizens Liberty Organization / 🌎 Global Channels / 🔫the-armory [part 7]

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:15

Arma lite also does not make a good ar which is weird

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 20:20

> Dd goes with anderson @Mechromansir that would be a hot take if it wasn’t objectively wrong

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:49

Then where sir do you think they go

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:49

I wont agree any higher then ruger

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 20:50

Have you ever fired one?

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:54

dont need to

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IJU0zm1glY

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:54

i will say it did finish the 5k rounds

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:54

but they are not doing proper qc

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:55

and they dont care about the second amendment any more they just want money

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 20:56

DD was good in 2008 Only thing of value now is their barrels If you're a cloner then their RIS II rails are good

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 21:06 edited: 2020-06-07T21:07:07.622+00:00

>*ak operators union* 😂

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 21:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPzKt97Tjfg

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Vøødøø
(id: 528047958583672883)

07 Jun 2020 21:34

Any reason I shouldn’t get a Sig 716?

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 21:35

And what was that video supposed to prove

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 21:35

They still dont do good qc

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Vøødøø
(id: 528047958583672883)

07 Jun 2020 21:35

What doesn’t?

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Vøødøø
(id: 528047958583672883)

07 Jun 2020 21:36

DD?

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 21:38

Inspection of the tolerances of their bcg. Judging by the quality, it's reasonable to assume that the rest of their rifle is probably serviceable.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 21:41

I won't really criticize the rifle in the video because some of the components have been recalled.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 21:44

Thats fine but over all you can look up reviews and there is a large ammount of them saying that they arent as good as they used to be

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 21:44

Do you know when that rifle was made

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 21:56

Yea but current reviews from people that do it for a living nit just joe down the stree

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 21:57

I'd like so see the input of someone here who have used one, as I haven't had a chance to inspect one. idk if crye has or not but I respect their opinion. I've only managed to find a couple of people online with issues, most of which deal with recalled parts or just not cleaning their rifle then wondering why it won't cycle.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 21:58

thats fair

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 21:59

Regardless of their quality control, they're not a brand I buy. I just don't want to give them money.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:03

i would not give them my money as well

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 22:04

It's really weird how many gun companies out there are anti 2a

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:05

ya or knife companies

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:05

benchmade

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 22:09

Yeah that was a shame. I have one of their knives I got as a gift, and I really like it. Definitely not getting rid of it considering I already have it and it was a gift but yeah

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 22:11

Lol @Mechromansir ak operators union goes under the “joe down the street” category, as you put it. I don’t personally buy DD stuff, but your sources are pretty wack, especially compared to a SOTAR physical

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 22:12

@Vøødøø for what do you need a sig 716

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:12

he puts it thought a test that any gun should be able to pass

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:12

the psak passed it with less trouble

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:12

all i am saying

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Vøødøø
(id: 528047958583672883)

07 Jun 2020 22:13

I have a 5.56 and had looked for a 308 rifle for years and I liked shooting the 716 better than any 308 I’ve ever shot befor e

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 22:13

Guns are Spec’d a certain way, for a certain reason. >implying PSA doesn’t pay people to give them good reviews

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 22:14

I’m sure it will be fine then @Vøødøø

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:14

i mean that has the implications that he would take that money

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 22:15

Idk robski just kinda thrashes guns until they stop working. I don't really think he'd take money from psa

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:15

or that he didnt trash the gf2 they made

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:15

and every problem he had with the gf3 he pointed out

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 22:16

🤷🏻‍♂️ I’m not here to trash peoples reputations. But YouTube is *generally* not the best place to learn about guns, with some exceptions

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:17

ya and imo robski kinda just does a really basic testing that any competent gun should pass easy

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

07 Jun 2020 22:20

Hmmmmm almost like some guns are spec’d differently than others for specific reasons lmao

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:22

yes if you build a gun with in specs it should function well

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:22

what are you trying to imply

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:22

that psa gives him cream of the crop or what

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:25

lol psa can have comically oversized gas ports

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:25

or you can drill it out your self

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:26

also my friends pws ar does fine and my bcm does fine

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 22:52

BCM is known for being a little overgassed. Should cycle anything you throw in there, though I don't suggest steel case in any AR platform for a variety of reasons

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 22:52

or if you build one with a good adjustable gas block like SLR, you can gas it properly yourself

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 22:56

yes steel is not my first thing i want to run in my ar but its like .23 cpr right now so i said o well i would rather train with shitty ammo a lot then train a little with nice ammo

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 22:59

While the price of cheaper steel case will probably offset the cost of the severely decreased barrel life, there is the issue with stuck cases. Often times they can get lodged in there so hard you'll have to take it to a gunsmith to get it out.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 23:01

idk i have just got 1k rounds i will let you know when i have issues

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 23:01

and i have been shooting steel in my glock and its been fine

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

07 Jun 2020 23:06

Just be extra diligent on cleaning. Stuck cases get worse the more carbon buildup there is

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 23:06

thats easy enough

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 23:37

You mean overgassing

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 23:37

@Potatoes O'Reilly

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

07 Jun 2020 23:39

It adds premature ware to parts causing the gun to beat its self to death and adds recoil

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 00:08

That, and It also decreases reliability

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 00:19

Eh it kinda depends

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 00:20

Longetivity more like it

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 00:48

No, overgassing wil absolutely cause malfunctions lol

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 00:48

Over gassing a rifle definitely causes reliability problems. It can cause issues with ejection, bolt hold open, and chambering the next round at the least

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 00:49

Also blows more gunk into your receiver and requires more lubrication

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 01:03

It depends on the platform like an ak has a shark claw that will just sent it in to the next zip code

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 01:04

And yes gunk does get blown in more

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 01:04

But if you look at like the hk g3 or mp5 it even more different

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 01:04

The bolt on an AR is intended to move at a certain speed. Any faster and it can blow past the bolt catch or fail to strip a new round off of the magazine

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 01:05

Ya i can see that

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 01:06

Since what happens is gas going down the tube into the gas key unlocks the bolt, allowing the chamber pressure to send the carrier back. If it unlocks too soon, there's too much pressure and it slams it open way too fast. A bandaid is putting a heavier buffer in there, but that causes other issues. The correct way is to either have a properly sized gas port, or properly adjusted gas block.

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 01:08

Ya dwell time is important

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

08 Jun 2020 01:16

So on the subject of good holsters from the other day. Idk how some one shot themself with an aliengear holster when the trigger can’t be accessed at all while holstered

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:16

*bruh*

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:16

It’s a hybrid holster

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:17

The back side leather deforms into the trigger guard and activates the trigger during Holstering

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:17

And also hybrid holsters aren’t comfortable and don’t conceal well, because they ignore physics and material limitations

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

08 Jun 2020 01:18

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

08 Jun 2020 01:18

All I’m saying is I don’t see how they did it. Not that I’m defending the holster

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 Jun 2020 01:18

Oh hey, I got one of those, they're actually comfy, but way too damn thick.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:19

Ah. You have a new gen one. That is *slightly* safer, and worse in all of the other ways lol

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 Jun 2020 01:20

Will agree, they do suck. Hahaha, but they are reasonably comfortable in my opinion.

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:20

*laughs in appendix G34/X300U*

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TacticalBeard
(id: 188364925398286336)

08 Jun 2020 01:21

What good but also comfortable some ppl listed a few the other day but I’m still looking around

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:22

Phlster, raven, tenicor, keepers, Henry holster co, bawiddiman

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 01:22

Jm custom

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Crye Salesman
(id: 368359599889186818)

08 Jun 2020 01:23

@TacticalBeard those ones are at least somewhat safe. The older gen had no real trigger guard

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 01:23

aliengear holsters flex inwards when holstering, which catches the trigger and ND's. Yeah, even the ones with metal inserts.

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 01:24

This particular one is from a glock in a shapeshifter holster

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Sparrow
(id: 263533549595000836)

08 Jun 2020 01:25

Oh boy... that's... not good

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 01:25 edited: 2020-06-08T01:27:53.861+00:00

Here's basically a catch all post for everything you may be doing that will get you killed. Generally just unfucking yourself. https://www.facebook.com/TactiCoolMemes2/posts/103257398063020?__tn__=K-R

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Confused
(id: 205492937423978496)

08 Jun 2020 01:26

They've got some great stuff

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Gaabriel
(id: 180199188687093760)

08 Jun 2020 01:45

L-L-L-Lawsuit

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The_Black_Knight
(id: 704521165640827020)

08 Jun 2020 02:49

Any of you guys have general experience with Ak pattern shit?

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 03:07

what do you mean ak pattern shit

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Mechromansir
(id: 285991400439414784)

08 Jun 2020 03:07

just ask the question

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